Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumA bold claim- with some justification
http://articles.boston.com/2012-03-21/opinion/31215570_1_gun-ban-ban-handguns-heller-decisionMarch 21, 2012
THE COLORADO Supreme Court put some noses out of joint when it ruled unanimously this month that the University of Colorados campus gun ban violated a 2003 state law that entitles residents with permits to carry concealed weapons.
One of those noses belonged to Abraham Nowels, a University of Colorado student who wrote to the Denver Post: Were in the middle of midterms right now, and I cant think of anything Id rather be focusing on than which of my fellow over-stressed, binge-drinking peers is carrying a concealed weapon into class with me. The Post agreed, pleading in an editorial for legislators with enough gumption to change the states concealed-carry law and give colleges the power they need to keep students safe....
...While the University of Colorado spent much of the past decade resisting the states concealed-carry law, Colorado State University complied with it. If the gun controllers are right, Colorado State should have seen a surge in crime, while its gun-banning sister institution should have been an Eden of security and lawfulness. Thats not what happened. As Clayton E. Cramer and David Burnett write in a new monograph for the Cato Institute, crime at the University of Colorado has risen 35 percent since 2004, while crime at Colorado State University has dropped 60 percent in the same time frame.
Something similar happened after the US Supreme Courts 2008 Heller decision striking down a gun ban in Washington, DC. The citys mayor predicted in dismay that more handguns in the District of Columbia will only lead to more handgun violence, yet crime in the nations capital plunged. Murder nose-dived to its lowest rate in half a century, falling from 186 in 2008 to 144 in 2009 to 132 in 2010 to 108 in 2011...
www.cato.org/pubs/wtpapers/WP-Tough-Targets.pdf
p.45
http://police.colorado.edu/uniform-crime-reports
http://police.colostate.edu/pages/clery-act.aspx
http://police.colostate.edu/pdfs/2011-Safety-Report.pdf
p.55
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In before the genetic fallacy gets dredged up...
xchrom
(108,903 posts)What is true today may not be true tomorrow.
No increase in out of hand shootings doesn't mean There won't be - there is simply an increase for that option to occur w/ this rule.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)Clames
(2,038 posts)There's is absolutely no evidence to support the conclusion that there could be an increase "waiting to happen" with such legislation. Heard such similar things every time a state passed shall-issue CCW and those never came true either.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Just makes it easier for more yahoos like Zimmerman to walk around in public with lethal weapon, and play cowboy and/or policeman.
Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)Yes, we will have the rare Zimmerman. It's no excuse to curtail the rights of everyone else.
beevul
(12,194 posts)People that don't like guns or gun culture, but aren't content to make decisions based on that for themselves, and feel compelled to make decisions based on that dislike, for everyone else, as well.
Reminds me of other groups...Like the anti-abortion types, and the anti-MJ types.
No doubt someone will be along soon to tell us how its not because of a dislike of guns or gun culture, gosh no, its because they care about society.
Yeah right. I'll buy that for a dollar.
The demeaning way in which they regularly describe, refer, and talk to us, makes it all quite crystal clear.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Eric Hoffer had 'em pegged sixty years ago:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer
TPaine7
(4,286 posts)reviewed by Joyce Foundation funded scientists.
Pure coincidence at best.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)TPaine7
(4,286 posts)friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Unlike most of your posts, I might add...