KENTUCKY: Governor Signs Three NRA Backed Bills into Law.

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http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2012/04/kentucky-governor-signs-three-nra-backed-bills-into-law.aspx

Kentucky Governor Steve Beshear signed three NRA-backed bills into law: House Bill 484, concealed carry exemption; House Bill 500, strengthening current firearms preemption law; and House Bill 563, fraudulent firearms prevention. These laws will go into effect on July 11, 2012.

HB 484, sponsored by state Representative Will Coursey (D-6), expands the current concealed carry exemptions by allowing landowners and businessmen with a sole proprietorship to carry a handgun concealed without the necessity of a concealed carry permit.

HB 500, sponsored by state Representative Bob Damron (D-39), will strengthen the current firearms preemption statute by expanding it to other units of government and public agencies to help prevent attempts to circumvent current state firearms laws and prohibit cities and counties from passing ordinances that would be more restrictive than existing state laws. HB 500 mandates consistent statewide regulations pertaining to firearms and ammunition and prevents a rights-infringing patchwork of local ordinances.

HB 563, sponsored by state Representative Martha Jane King (D-16), will protect lawful firearm retailers from illegal gun sting operations such as those by anti-gun New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg. Bloomberg has sent hired agents into other states to attempt illegal firearm purchases in an effort to blame federally licensed firearm retailers for gun crime in New York City and around the country.
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Each of those bills was sponsored by a Democrat, and the NRA gives them due credit for sponsorship.

The backlash, backlash, backlash, keeps on coming, coming, coming.

HB 484 may be seen here: http://www.lrc.ky.gov/record/12RS/HB484.htm

HB 500 may be seen here: http://www.lrc.ky.gov/record/12RS/HB500.htm

HB 563 may be seen here: http://www.lrc.ky.gov/record/12RS/HB563.htm

[gejohnston]

1. stupid question

HB 484, sponsored by state Representative Will Coursey (D-6), expands the current concealed carry exemptions by allowing landowners and businessmen with a sole proprietorship to carry a handgun concealed without the necessity of a concealed carry permit.

that means on own property or business?

[GreenStormCloud]

2. Correct. Also the owner can give permission to an employee to carry concealed.

Such permission is limited to the property.

[pipoman]

4. My state has been like this for decades..even before CCW

[ManiacJoe]

5. The phrase "real property"

Would I be correct in thinking that this purposely excludes folks like traveling salesmen from claiming that their car is their place of business?

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6. Probably. He wouldn't to his business in his car anyway.

So he would need to get a permit. However, depending upon Kentucky law he may be able to have one in the car.

[pipoman]

3. I like HB563...hope it carries a serious consequence

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7. The law makes it a class D felony for Bloomie's guys.

1 to 5 years prison and a fine of 1K to 10K dollars. Bloomie could pay their fines but the agent would have to do the jail time and have the felony conviction on his record.
Here is the entire law:
(1) As used in this section:
(a) "Licensed dealer" means a person who is licensed pursuant to 18 U.S.C. sec. 923 and pursuant to any laws of this Commonwealth and engages in the business of dealing in firearms;
(b) "Materially false information" means information that portrays an illegal transaction as legal or a legal transaction as illegal; and
(c) "Private seller" means a person who sells or offers for sale any firearm.
(2) A person is guilty of fraudulent firearm transaction when he or she knowingly:
(a) Solicits, persuades, encourages, or entices a licensed dealer or private seller of firearms to transfer a firearm under circumstances which the person knows would violate the laws of this Commonwealth or the United States;
(b) Provides to a licensed dealer or private seller of firearms what the person knows to be materially false information with intent to deceive the dealer or seller about the legality of a transfer of a firearm; or
(c) Procures another to engage in conduct prohibited by this section.
(3) Fraudulent firearm transaction is a Class D felony.

[LAGC]

8. GOP/NRA?

Oh wait... they're all Democrats.

How could this be?

[Simo 1939_1940]

9. ***

[era veteran]

10. Legalized what I did anyway

Just at open or close though.