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CrossPosting With No Comment (Original Post) Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 OP
Some people are too sophmoric gejohnston Jun 2012 #1
point taken. -- Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #2
It's the whole Progressive, progressive, Democrat or democrat shtick ileus Jun 2012 #3
and the other side of the coin Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #4
we used to have one troll where their main goal was getting people shitcanned. ileus Jun 2012 #5
I wonder how many of those were legitimate and how many were just so infuriated Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #6
Basically all the ones I read they were intentionally baited...it's easy to exploit ileus Jun 2012 #7
One way to keep the rhetoric going and keep Dems in rural red states from being elected. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #8
this person wouldn't gejohnston Jun 2012 #9
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #10
Don't be. She doesn't like anybody. oneshooter Jun 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #12
Were you really? Really?? ileus Jun 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #14
Here's the funniest shit ever...Snork PeRsonIFieD! ileus Jun 2012 #15
That's really funny, since you only registered here 4 days *after* iverglas was banned. Electric Monk Jun 2012 #16
which means gejohnston Jun 2012 #17
confusion over why that post was hidden or even alerted .... Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #18
same here, which begs the question gejohnston Jun 2012 #21
Maybe someone will see fit to share the jury results... Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #22
Perhaps SGMRTDARMY will post them in meta, or otherwise share them petronius Jun 2012 #26
5-1 Electric Monk Jun 2012 #27
So you alerted? Are you reconsidering now? petronius Jun 2012 #28
if I may say it a little more succinctly: Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #32
Bad alert. Clames Jun 2012 #34
Bad Alert and Terrible Jury Service and The Alerter owes an apology to the aggrieved. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #35
I was mistaken about 1 detail, but my impression that they are a returner remains. Electric Monk Jun 2012 #36
based on what? gejohnston Jun 2012 #38
I've been reading her blog too, and haven't seen mention of "SGMRTDARMY" Electric Monk Jun 2012 #20
here gejohnston Jun 2012 #23
Ok, I stand corrected re: iverglas & SGMRTDARMY. Electric Monk Jun 2012 #25
Every time she posts my name... PavePusher Jun 2012 #29
I'll see your range ammo and raise you gejohnston Jun 2012 #30
It is comforting to know ... DonP Jun 2012 #40
"still reads DU"??? Correction: It appears that she still lives, breathes, dreams, Common Sense Party Jun 2012 #33
Link? Atypical Liberal Jun 2012 #37
this one. gejohnston Jun 2012 #39
LOL Atypical Liberal Jun 2012 #41
Who says they regretted? PavePusher Jun 2012 #19
point taken. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #24
I'm going to say his troll example was so good, he actually trolled a bunch of people in the process AtheistCrusader Jun 2012 #31

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
2. point taken. --
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 05:13 PM
Jun 2012

better a keyboard than a gun, amen.

I told DanTex I would point out these tactics when I saw them and asked him to do the same for me when he saw them coming from a 2A poster.

Kind of wish now that I had made a bet as to who would rack up the most in a certain amount of time.

Tactics like this in some groups would not be tolerated. I know we have thicker skin in here but, it is keeping the rest of DU from participating and confusing Jurors on how to adjudicate post in this group. I seek to edify DU.....

Thanks for commenting.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
3. It's the whole Progressive, progressive, Democrat or democrat shtick
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 05:56 PM
Jun 2012

These people believe that anyone who supports the 2A is an idiot, too stupid to be a true democrat so they have to be a troll.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
4. and the other side of the coin
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 06:00 PM
Jun 2012

I see it as incendiary flamebait and disruptive and trollish behavior on their part....also the condescending passive aggressive tone is NOT conducive to civil discourse.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
6. I wonder how many of those were legitimate and how many were just so infuriated
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 06:06 PM
Jun 2012

beyond their limit and Baited into saying things they regretted.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
7. Basically all the ones I read they were intentionally baited...it's easy to exploit
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 06:13 PM
Jun 2012

someones weakness if you've spent enough time to learn them. Bait them here, then there, wait a few days bait them again...then pick the right time and spring the trap.

And giggle like a school girl when one of your enemies are baited enough to where you're whining gets them canned.

Response to gejohnston (Reply #9)

Response to oneshooter (Reply #11)

Response to ileus (Reply #13)

ileus

(15,396 posts)
15. Here's the funniest shit ever...Snork PeRsonIFieD!
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 09:06 PM
Jun 2012

Was a constant fixture in flame wars in that forum. Repeated attempts to badger the Admins into banning people via the alert function. Constantly surly and rude, asshat had become pretty much the epitome of "making DU suck." She received an enormous amount of feedback from other DUers indicating that she was disruptive and divisive and was given ample opportunity to modify her approach, but instead chose to believe that the problem was everybody else on DU.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
18. confusion over why that post was hidden or even alerted ....
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:10 AM
Jun 2012

what was SO wrong with what he said? He is a Noob, so what? OF course she is reading here and posting there. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
22. Maybe someone will see fit to share the jury results...
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:21 AM
Jun 2012

and people wonder why people self delete.

I don't blame the dude.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
26. Perhaps SGMRTDARMY will post them in meta, or otherwise share them
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:33 AM
Jun 2012

I'd be curious to see that alert message - I'm hard-pressed to imagine any legitimate reason to alert that post.

Ideally, the alerter would step up and explain, but I doubt that will happen...

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
27. 5-1
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:36 AM
Jun 2012

COMMENTS:

Returning zombie. He's talking about a previous incarnation of his, under a different username. This current account only registered here 4 days AFTER iverglas was banned.

Please hide so it goes to MIRT.

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sun Jun 3, 2012, 09:38 PM, and voted 5-1 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: MIRT should evaluate this.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: I'm giving the Alerter the benefit of the doubt here. But how would most people... errr, jurors know if this poster is a returning zombie or whatever? Or just a low post count newbie slated to become another notch on some "professional troll hunter's" mouse?
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: You smell like a dirty sock.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
28. So you alerted? Are you reconsidering now?
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:40 AM
Jun 2012


In all honesty, I think troll-hunting is a bigger blight on this website than 99% of trolls ever manage to be - the constant peering at low-post-count or unconventional posters is creepily authoritarian and can only chill the conversation...
 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
34. Bad alert.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 07:53 PM
Jun 2012

Looks like somebody needs to replace the batteries in their crystal ball before thinking about touching the Alert Button again...

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
36. I was mistaken about 1 detail, but my impression that they are a returner remains.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:34 PM
Jun 2012

Not that they're the only returning zombie here in the gungeon. I'd even posit most of iverglas' "gungeon fanclub" are such fans precisely because they've been served pizza a la iverglas, often more than once.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
38. based on what?
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:13 PM
Jun 2012

unless you can recognize the writing style and words used. That is how we busted a zombie anti Loudly, who was pretty obvious to everyone they were a reincarnation of Sharesunited
Like I told you before, simply knowing about individuals or conversations before registration only indicates he or she read the forums before registering.
By your logic, the fact that I read "Top Ten Conservative Idiots" and might remember the content before my registration would make me Lazarus too. I read DU for a couple of years before registering.

I'd even posit most of iverglas' "gungeon fanclub" are such fans precisely because they've been served pizza a la iverglas, often more than once.
Please do and show evidence to back it up. You maybe right, I have no idea. I actually don't care.
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/forensics/literary/1.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forensic_linguistics

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
20. I've been reading her blog too, and haven't seen mention of "SGMRTDARMY"
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:13 AM
Jun 2012

She has mentioned plenty of usernames of DUers she's fought with, but that's not one of them.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
23. here
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:23 AM
Jun 2012
http://feministshosts.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?id=30

Too many damn Dans in the Guns forum these days anyhow. Grounds enough for tombstoning. Would be for Wee Willie Winkie, anyhow! Let it never be said that he doesn't embrace the arbitrary exercise of power.

Lotsa gun trolls in that thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/117240769

I know: duh. At least newbie SGMRTDARMY (dare I add: BBQ) isn't a Dan.
PavePusher and DonP, those inveterate veterans of all the best right-wing sewers of the internet (use the search box on the General Discussion page here, folks), still stinking up DU. Where's Willie when you need him???


BTW, knowing about events and people before registering is not evidence or proof of previous membership. It only means the individual read it before registering, just as iverglas is now.
 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
25. Ok, I stand corrected re: iverglas & SGMRTDARMY.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:33 AM
Jun 2012

If there's one thing I think everyone can agree on, re: iverglas, it's that she's quite verbose.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
30. I'll see your range ammo and raise you
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:58 AM
Jun 2012

a few bucks to the NFA
http://www.nfa.ca/

While we are at it, a couple of bucks to Canada Carry for each time she bad mouths DU.
http://canadacarry.org

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
40. It is comforting to know ...
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:21 PM
Jun 2012

... we were apparently a long term and continuing burr under her saddle.

I like the idea of buying more ammo, but I generally don't need an excuse for that or picking up another unusual or hard to find .22 rifle.

Common Sense Party

(14,139 posts)
33. "still reads DU"??? Correction: It appears that she still lives, breathes, dreams,
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 06:48 PM
Jun 2012

bleeds and shits DU. Talk about obsessive and narcissistic.

At least now she doesn't have to hear us lesser mortals argue back, and she can try to appear as correct and infallible as she thinks she actually is.

 

Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)
41. LOL
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:35 PM
Jun 2012

Man, am I not sorry to see this person go. I gather from the admin comment on her transparency page that she gave up on the guns forum and instead went on to disrupt the feminism forum.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
19. Who says they regretted?
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:13 AM
Jun 2012

Speaking truth to... dickishness... is an honor, not anything to ever regret.

Just do it with flair.

"When death is inevitable, style counts."

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
31. I'm going to say his troll example was so good, he actually trolled a bunch of people in the process
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 10:13 AM
Jun 2012

of making a simple example.

Wasn't worth responding to.

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