Sheriff's office investigating accidental shooting

[safeinOhio]

http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/Sheriffs-office-investigating-accidental-shooting--166621356.html


The Canyon County Sheriff's Office says they were told that the man was showing a .380 caliber handgun to his nephew, but before handing the gun to the nephew, the man had unloaded it. When the gun was returned to the man, he reloaded it. The man said as he was trying to let the hammer down, the gun went off hitting his 51-year-old wife, who was only a few feet away.

[ManiacJoe]

1. Violation of Rules #2 and #3.

Lowering the hammer using your thumb is always an unsafe act.

[Clames]

2. I never manually lower the hammer on a loaded chamber.

My USP has manual de-cocking and even then I double check to make sure the muzzle is safely pointed at the ground or down range before using it.

[safeinOhio]

3. Sadly,

there is no rule to know or practice any safety rules to buy or own a handgun. A person is not even required to know the laws about handguns, let alone safe handling.

[TPaine7]

4. I have to give you your due there.

There is no right, IMO, to unsafely keep and bear arms. I think that demonstrating knowledge of the basic rules of gun safety could be constitutionally required as a pre-condition to gun purchases. I don't know the best logistics, but I don't see a constitutional issue.

[holdencaufield]

5. But there are other laws ...

... that directly or indirectly affect the unsafe gun owner. There are laws to that deter people from doing almost ANYTHING in an unsafe manner. Try operating a car in an unsafe manner in front of a cop. And where criminal law doesn't apply -- Tort Law allows anyone who has person or property harmed by an unsafe gun user to obtain justice.

Please NOTE: I only note the use of Tort Law academically for the purposes of this argument and NOT as an invitation to make Americans more litigious than we are currently.

There was a time in America when gun safety was something most of us learned from our parents or from organisations such as Scouting (Rifle Shooting was one of the more fun merit badges to get). While my daughter is fully skilled in the safe use of firearms, I fear most kids growing up today aren't.

[TPaine7]

7. The fundamentals of gun safety should be taught in school. It is a basic survival skill. n/t

[holdencaufield]

8. No argument but ...

... could you imagine how bat-shite insane teacher's unions and various groups would be if weapons (even air rifles) were introduced into Junior High or High schools?

In many schools in the US, the students would have much more experience than the faculty in the handling (not necessarily safe handling) of firearms.

In the UK, they still have (in some schools) mandatory Combined Cadet Corp where Senior School students (both Private and State schools) are taught basic combat skills including firearms training -- Ironically, in a country where owning a firearm of any kind (including an air rifle) is made very difficult.

[safeinOhio]

9. "bat shite insane teacher's unions"?

Sounds like a right wing teabagger's statement. There is a place for that kind of talk, take it back to Your freeper site.

[Jenoch]

6. Huh?

"...there is no rule to know or practice any safety rules to buy or own a handgun".

That sentence is clear as mud. If I understand your point correctly, and after reading your post a few times I think I do, you are in support of teaching gun safety in our public schools. If gun safety were taught, then maybe accidental discharges would drop significantly because people would have been taught how to safely handle a gun.

[bad sofa king]

11. If you are carrying one in Ohio you do.

That being said, there will always be idiots.

[ileus]

10. the sig 380's do they have a decocker?

like the bigger sigs?

can you carry it cocked and locked?


do the walthers (whatever model the 380 is) have an exposed hammer?




If you're going to carry a 380 buy one of the light simple ones like the LCP, P3AT, M&P, ect...