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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:11 PM Sep 2012

Does anyone seriously want to go back to 1926?

by repealing all federal gun laws including the very limited "mailing of pistols act" that Harding signed? We have all seen the hyperbole about "complete deregulation". I find the "you are an extremist if you don't want it my way" kind of a debate stopper.

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Does anyone seriously want to go back to 1926? (Original Post) gejohnston Sep 2012 OP
Nah. nt rrneck Sep 2012 #1
Yes ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #2
All we need is a DeLorean and some plutonium NT Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #4
Where we're going ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #5
or have the first gejohnston Sep 2012 #6
Do you think you could bring me back a commercial Luger? oneshooter Sep 2012 #9
Unfortunately ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #10
Even in 1928? gejohnston Sep 2012 #11
Maybe not '28 holdencaufield Sep 2012 #12
Partly the historical and collector or historical factor gejohnston Sep 2012 #13
I wonder ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #14
In my best Australian accent... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #15
Ah .... "Death Wish 3" holdencaufield Sep 2012 #16
Which "Death Wish" movie? GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #22
The Wildey .475 is a unique-looking weapon ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #23
I saw DW3 at the theater in1985 and not since. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #28
I have seen a few DWM gejohnston Sep 2012 #17
See! holdencaufield Sep 2012 #18
My favorite scene from the series: GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #26
There is a special circle of Hell ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #27
I have the entire series on DVD plus "Serenity" GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #29
Blu-Ray here ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #30
Original C96's holdencaufield Sep 2012 #25
Walther P38 era veteran Sep 2012 #31
You'll get no argument from me ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #32
It was about time travel, LOL era veteran Sep 2012 #33
Because the last commercial 3switch luger sold for over $50,000 used. oneshooter Sep 2012 #36
I thought Hitler graduated from art school NT. Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #21
The story goes ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #24
May have been worse. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #34
Meant to get back to you on this and forgot. Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #38
Yes. Llewlladdwr Sep 2012 #3
Other than one, gejohnston Sep 2012 #7
Demand for DeLoreans holdencaufield Sep 2012 #8
Not to mention the production delays! oneshooter Sep 2012 #37
I realize this is intended to be about guns, SheilaT Sep 2012 #19
I'm pretty sure ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #20
We still have Prohibition. jeepnstein Sep 2012 #35
 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
2. Yes ...
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:22 PM
Sep 2012

I want to make a fortune off of prohibition, discover Greta Garbo, invent television and PEZ dispensers.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
5. Where we're going ...
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:47 PM
Sep 2012

... we don't need ROADS.

But, in my hurry to post, I neglected to list the most important reason to go back to 1928.

I will go to Germany and do whatever I can to make sure Hitler gets accepted into Art School.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
9. Do you think you could bring me back a commercial Luger?
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:07 PM
Sep 2012

with the stock/holster, 30 rd snail drum, and that 3 position safety?

I would gladly give you the $30 that it would cost.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
10. Unfortunately ...
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:37 PM
Sep 2012

... Jews were forbidden to buy or own firearms in Germany at the time.

So, there's that.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
11. Even in 1928?
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:43 PM
Sep 2012

I'll go with you and we can B & E a gun store and be back in the 21st century before the polizi shows up.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
12. Maybe not '28
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:57 PM
Sep 2012

But, seriously -- why a Luger? The single most un-reliable military handgun ever produced (luckily for some of my relatives).

Of course, the Luger has a coolness factor that cannot be denied, but if you're going for cool, might I suggest the Mauser C96 "Broomhandle". Just as cool and much more reliable.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
13. Partly the historical and collector or historical factor
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:21 PM
Sep 2012

but I always thought they were cool. The Swiss used them until the 1970s.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
22. Which "Death Wish" movie?
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:21 AM
Sep 2012

There were five in the series. In the first one he was given a .32 revolver. In the second he has what appears to be a couple of 9mm. I don't really remember what he had in the next three.

I liked the first two, the next three were poor.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
23. The Wildey .475 is a unique-looking weapon ...
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:40 AM
Sep 2012

... so it figured prominently in "Death Wish 3"

Originally designed to be a "hunting pistol ". It is a genuinely unique handgun, with a rotating bolt gas-blowback system (similar to an AK), interchangeable barrels (up to a ridiculous 18&quot , and an odd caliber (modified .45 magnum) designed to get .44 magnum muzzle velocity from a .45 cartridge.


GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
28. I saw DW3 at the theater in1985 and not since.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 09:30 AM
Sep 2012

After enjoying the first two I was really disappointed in 3. So I don't remember the guns, except that on WWII veteran had an air-cooled variant of the M1919 machine gun. Probably an M1919A4.

Just looked it up on IMDB, and that gun is prominent in the poster art.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
17. I have seen a few DWM
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 01:10 AM
Sep 2012

Lugers, but not one C96 lately. I found a .45ACP luger made by Mauser from the 1970s. Still out of my price and practicality range.
Just the ones made by Mauser or all of the copies? I don't think anyone really knows. Harrison Ford waved around a modified one playing Han Solo.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
27. There is a special circle of Hell ...
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 09:18 AM
Sep 2012

... reserved for the person who cancelled "Firefly"

The "Special Hell" as Shepard Book with say.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
29. I have the entire series on DVD plus "Serenity"
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 09:39 AM
Sep 2012

Morena Baccarin as Inara Serra is one of the most beautiful women on TV.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
30. Blu-Ray here ...
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 10:20 AM
Sep 2012

... she's even more beautiful in 1080P. She looks so good in "Firefly" I was almost disappointed to see her in "Homeland".

The best part about that show is the dialogue. One of the best-written TV shows ever.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
25. Original C96's
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:48 AM
Sep 2012

Can be found in good condition for $4,000 to 5,000. Over a million were made, in various calibers, however most of the later ones were made in China and quality is "inconsistent" at best.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
32. You'll get no argument from me ...
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 10:25 AM
Sep 2012

... but it wasn't produced until 1938 -- we were discussing time-travel to 1928.

Of course, the finest handgun produced pre-1928 (in my humble opinion) was the Colt 1911. The gold-standard for semi-automatic handguns.

era veteran

(4,069 posts)
33. It was about time travel, LOL
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 11:35 AM
Sep 2012

I am carrying a brand new, surplus P1/P38 so I'm a bit prejudiced.
I carried a 1911 for 4 years tanking. The best ever. No argument.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
36. Because the last commercial 3switch luger sold for over $50,000 used.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:52 PM
Sep 2012

A new unfired one could easily triple the price.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
24. The story goes ...
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:44 AM
Sep 2012

... that Hitler applied to the Vienna Academy of Fine Arts in October 1907 and failed his entrance exam.

We can only speculate how World History would have played out had he become a mediocre artist instead of Der Fuhrer.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
34. May have been worse.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 01:19 PM
Sep 2012

The Nazis likely would have still come to power, but with someone who would not interfer with his Generals. If Hitler had left his generals alone to act as general he may have won WWII.

Alternate history is a fertile field for science fiction. Do you read any Harry Turtledove?

 

Trunk Monkey

(950 posts)
38. Meant to get back to you on this and forgot.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 01:22 PM
Sep 2012

I remember reading a book about Hitler in Middle School that said that on the night of his graduation he got drunk and in a black out used his diploma as toilet paper and sent it back to the school.

The story goes that he woke up the next morning, didn't remember the event, couldn't find the diploma and went back to the school to ask for a copy. The school, of course, refused to give him one.

I don't remember what he was graduating from but I always assumed it was art school

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
7. Other than one,
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:58 PM
Sep 2012

I'll take that as a group "no, we don't think little Johnny can use Mom's credit card, or Google wallet, to order an FN P-90 from Amazon."
I didn't know these guys were still in business
http://delorean.com/

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
8. Demand for DeLoreans
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:00 PM
Sep 2012

plummeted when people found out the Flux Capacitor and Mr Fusion were expensive options.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
19. I realize this is intended to be about guns,
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 02:40 AM
Sep 2012

but really, when I saw the headline my first thought was, Not a bad idea. Get into the stock market for about a year or so, sell everything, and then in October of 1929 short everything in sight.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
20. I'm pretty sure ...
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 07:14 AM
Sep 2012

... that would be a violation of Time Enforcement Commission rules and regulations concerning the illicit use of time travel ... do you want Claude Van Damme all over you?

jeepnstein

(2,631 posts)
35. We still have Prohibition.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 01:42 PM
Sep 2012

Sure, we've changed the substance but the results are predictably bloody and violent.

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