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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:02 AM Sep 2012

Survey finds gun dealers, pawnbrokers say it's too easy for criminals to get guns

The majority of U.S. firearms dealers and pawnbrokers believe it is too easy for criminals to get guns in America, results from the UC Davis Firearms Licensee Survey reveal.

The survey is believed to be the first of its kind to gather the views of federally licensed firearms dealers and pawnbrokers on important social issues and the firearms business itself, as well as to collect data on the characteristics of these business establishments.

"Characteristics of federally licensed firearms retailers and retail establishments in the United States: Initial findings from the Firearms Licensee Survey" appears online today in the Journal of Urban Health. The survey was conducted by the UC Davis Violence Prevention Program in 2011.

This initial publication provides the first detailed statistical portrait of retail establishments -- gun dealers and pawnbrokers -- that sell firearms. It also details respondents' personal characteristics and attitudes toward firearms, including their incentives for and concerns about employment in the firearms industry.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/prweb2012/9/prweb9887207.htm
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Survey finds gun dealers, pawnbrokers say it's too easy for criminals to get guns (Original Post) SecularMotion Sep 2012 OP
That is why we need even less regulation. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #1
I would settle for fewer Google dumps ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #3
You're right. glacierbay Sep 2012 #4
And Poe's law rulez. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #5
Do you have an answer to the question pending? nt. glacierbay Sep 2012 #6
No kidding it's easy for the criminal element to get guns. glacierbay Sep 2012 #2
What is the point of that executive summary article ManiacJoe Sep 2012 #7
Funded by the Joyce Foundation. Clames Sep 2012 #8
Just a guess here but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #11
of course the 99% fail to mention their real agenda.....transfer fees. ileus Sep 2012 #9
It is FANTASTICALLY EASY for criminals to get guns! Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #10
I Think I will call bullshit on this. Hangingon Sep 2012 #12
What they fail to mention... Clames Sep 2012 #13
Let's outlaw guns like illegal drugs guardian Sep 2012 #14
No shit. This is why licensed gun dealers don't want to make it more difficult for the law abiding.. aikoaiko Sep 2012 #15
 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
4. You're right.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:38 AM
Sep 2012

The current regs. don't work...................with criminals. What regs. do you think that criminals will abide by?

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
2. No kidding it's easy for the criminal element to get guns.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:32 AM
Sep 2012

They'll always be able to get guns even if there was a ban on guns, it's what criminals do, they commit crimes.
The only ones affected by laws are law abiding citizens, so how would passing more laws help?
And I believe I speak with far more experience on this than you do.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
7. What is the point of that executive summary article
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 03:06 PM
Sep 2012

when all the article does is dance around the unstated results of the research?

 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
8. Funded by the Joyce Foundation.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 09:32 PM
Sep 2012

The doc conducting this "study" is a known anti-gun shill too. They are getting desperate for anything they can spin these days...

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,481 posts)
11. Just a guess here but...
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 08:32 AM
Sep 2012

...are studies funded by very pro-control organizations (VPC, Joyce...) eagerly accepted, touted and held up like flags and studies funded by very pro-rights organizations (NRA, SAF...) eschewed?

Lemmesee.... I'll find it here somewhere...

ileus

(15,396 posts)
9. of course the 99% fail to mention their real agenda.....transfer fees.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 09:48 PM
Sep 2012

they could give two shits less about keeping guns out of the hands of criminals...what they want are profits.

 

Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)
10. It is FANTASTICALLY EASY for criminals to get guns!
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:29 PM
Sep 2012

Geeze, this is news?

Look, in just about every state in the Union, anyone can buy a gun no questions asked!

All you have to do is open up your local Penny Saver classified adds and you will fine dozens upon dozens of firearms for sale at market prices. All you have to is call them up, arrange to meet somewhere and have cash in hand and it's a done deal.

Now, this assumes that criminals are going to pay market prices for guns, but yes, assuming they are willing to do that, it's a piece of cake for anyone to buy a gun.

If you want to change this, you'll need universal licensing. If you want universal licensing, it will have to preserve anonymous firearm ownership or it will never fly.

Assuming we get universal licensing, we will all expect to be able to buy firearms through the mail again, since the only reason we have to pay to go through a middle-man today is so they can run a background check. If I'm licensed, that step is no longer necessary.

I'll put up with licensing if I can buy firearms through the mail again. It will open up the entire nation to free market competition. Right now it's generally not worthwhile to buy new firearms out-of-state as the FFL transfer fee negates any savings.

Hangingon

(3,071 posts)
12. I Think I will call bullshit on this.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 06:26 PM
Sep 2012

"The majority of U.S. firearms dealers and pawnbrokers believe it is too easy for criminals to get guns in America, results from the UC Davis Firearms Licensee Survey reveal. "

I don't get around too much but I have never geard a dealer say this. Much less a pawn broker.

 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
13. What they fail to mention...
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 06:33 PM
Sep 2012

...miserably fail really is that their results are based on the responses of 1,601 surveys that were sent and only 591 returned out a FFL population of 60,000+ excluding C&R type. So this is based on the responses of 0.985% of those FFL holders. 55% of 0.1% represents a majority? Laughable.

aikoaiko

(34,177 posts)
15. No shit. This is why licensed gun dealers don't want to make it more difficult for the law abiding..
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 06:16 PM
Sep 2012

... to cquire, keep and bear arms.

Because the survey also revealed:

Major concerns about the business were too many gun control regulations and fears that the government might confiscate their guns.


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