South Carolina Supreme Court To Make Gun-Rights Decisions

[mikeb302000]

Islandpacket.com reports on some of the controversial decisions facing the South Carolina Supreme Court.

Why they are controversial or even being considered is beyond me. Of the three examples given, one is a shooting after the fact, Jerome Ersland style, or even worse. The other two are shootings in the back, for crying out loud.

The fact that gun-rights folks argue these types of incidents trying to justify them indicates that they aren't interested in the truth or what's right. They're only interested in expanding and extending gun rights.

The castle doctrine they want would allow for anyone who feels threatened to shoot and kill. Do they really think that will be used properly more times than it will be abused? I certainly don't. And I don't think they believe that either. I think they don't care how often it would be abused. They just want the rights expanded, regardless of the cost.

What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.
Cross posted at Mikeb302000

[friendly_iconoclast]

1. They aren't "gun rights folks", they are criminal defendants- a fact you elide.

Why they are controversial or even being considered is beyond me.

Because those concerned are exercising their right under the law to appeal their cases, that's why. I know you're not big on the whole "due process" thing,
but even you should have figured that one out.

Have you perchance been hanging out with Forza Italia types? Because these latest threads of yours are starting to get more than a slight hint of their
fascis...err, authoritarian ways...

[Tuesday Afternoon]

2. Is he still in Italy?

[ileus]

4. He told me yesterday his Home in the States is NJ.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=77414

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

5. I hope he's....

...not near me.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

6. Yeah, I saw that. His permanent residence is in NJ.... ??

what exactly does that mean, anyway? Is he visiting Italy?

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

7. Last I heard...

...(and IIRC) he's a UN employee. Even so, I wouldn't broad-brush UN employees because of him but having mike does nothing to improve my opinion of the UN.




eta: Also, those who meet the standards are able to exclude the first $95,100 of wages earned from US taxes. (2012 numbers)

[Tuesday Afternoon]

8. So then, He is American by birth, employed by the UN, currently residing in Italy and,

chances are, he is not paying taxes. He has a blog. Do we really believe any of this? Has he said how old he is?

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

9. I don't know much more.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

10. I don't believe a word of it. not a word.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

11. Beats me

and I don't much care.

How's your day?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

12. good. quiet, rainy day with a good book -- oddly enough about sociopaths

not drawing any parallels mind you, just what I happen to be reading.

The Sociopath Next Door
From Publishers Weekly
[Dr.] Stout says that as many as 4% of the population are conscienceless sociopaths who have no empathy or affectionate feelings for humans or animals. As Stout (The Myth of Sanity) explains, a sociopath is defined as someone who displays at least three of seven distinguishing characteristics, such as deceitfulness, impulsivity and a lack of remorse. Such people often have a superficial charm, which they exercise ruthlessly in order to get what they want. Stout argues that the development of sociopathy is due half to genetics and half to nongenetic influences that have not been clearly identified. The author offers three examples of such people, including Skip, the handsome, brilliant, superrich boy who enjoyed stabbing bullfrogs near his family's summer home, and Doreen, who lied about her credentials to get work at a psychiatric institute, manipulated her colleagues and, most cruelly, a patient. Dramatic as these tales are, they are composites, and while Stout is a good writer and her exploration of sociopaths can be arresting, this book occasionally appeals to readers' paranoia, as the book's title and its guidelines for dealing with sociopaths indicate.

link:
http://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

18. much the same

Rainy: http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?zoommode=pan&prevzoom=zoom&num=6&frame=0&delay=15&scale=1.000&noclutter=0&ID=DIX&type=N0Z&showstorms=0&lat=39.87194443&lon=-75.24111176&label=Philadelphia%20International,%20PA&map.x=400&map.y=240&scale=1.000¢erx=400¢ery=240&showlabels=1&rainsnow=0&lightning=0&lerror=20&num_stns_min=2&num_stns_max=9999&avg_off=9999&smooth=0

Packing to travel for work in the morning. It's neck and neck for me which is worse, Republicans or airports.

[rl6214]

15. I think one of the gun boards actually traced his IP address back to Italy once.

If you do a google search for his screen name you will come up with running battles he has had with various gun boards and what they have exposed of him.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

16. I did and let me just say --

[Atypical Liberal]

24. He said he was in Marine Corp training in 1970

So I would gather he was born around 1952. This would make him around 60.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

25. He sure is good at copying and pasting.

[rl6214]

14. Doesn't do much to disprove the UN gun grabber theories either.

[rl6214]

13. And when was the last time he was there, 30 years ago?

When he was a self admitted legal and ILLEGAL gun owner?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

17. ?! surely not that long ago ?! how old is this person?

I got the vibe that he is young-ish 20's --- no older than 35 --

[rl6214]

19. He left me this message in another thread

mikeb302000 (827 posts)

58. I haven't touched a gun for 30 years.

I believe he claims to have been in the military in the late 70's or early 80's so that would make him older than his immaturity would lead you to believe.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

20. interesting, thanks. I guess we can believe that --

[mikeb302000]

22. Why are you guys spending so many comments

talking bout me? Isn't what I say enough? Does it really matter where I live and why, and how old I am?

No, I suppose instead of dealing with the issues I bring up, this is just another way to derail the thread.

You know, for guys who have "right" on their side, you sure do us a lot of shabby tricks instead of just sticking with the gun argument.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

23. As far as I am concerned there is no argument. It is settled Law. As for your issues and

credentials -- the phrase: consider the source -- comes to mind . . .

[mikeb302000]

21. Actually I am big on the due process thing. n.t.

[ileus]

3. Expanded human rights are always a good thing.

Wishing luck to our safety minded peeps in SC.