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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:01 AM Oct 2012

Do Private Online Gun Sales Create Loopholes in Gun Laws?

Armslist.com is the website Radcliffe Haughton visited to purchase a handgun, just two days after a restraining order barred him from having one. Police say he used that weapon Sunday to kill three women, including his wife, and wound four others at a Brookfield Spa before turning the gun on himself.

Armslist allows private citizens like Haughton to sell, buy and trade -- no applications or background checks needed.

Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett criticized the lack of regulations Wednesday.

"Had a background check been required on this sale, Mr. Haughton may not have been able to obtain the gun he used to murder his wife and her co-workers," Barrett says.

http://www.wbay.com/story/19917744/2012/10/25/does-online-gun-sales-create-loopholes-in-gun-laws
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Do Private Online Gun Sales Create Loopholes in Gun Laws? (Original Post) SecularMotion Oct 2012 OP
No. 57_TomCat Oct 2012 #1
How to eliminate loopholes ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #2
It makes it easier to connect buyer to seller krispos42 Oct 2012 #3
Online ads are no different than other local classified ads. GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #4
Ban classified ads discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #5
WTF does it having been an online sale have to do with it? AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #6
Such bullshit slackmaster Oct 2012 #7
I don't see how rrneck Oct 2012 #8
Noticed that did you? discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #10
Isn't the premise in the title bass-ackwards? PavePusher Oct 2012 #9

57_TomCat

(543 posts)
1. No.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:13 AM
Oct 2012

The internet allows for the meeting of people wishing to sell, trade or buy guns BUT the transactions must still be within the law of the jurisdiction where they take place. The loopholes you are talking about exist with or without the internet.

Then again many "loopholes" are simply ignorance of the varied laws that dot the country.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
2. How to eliminate loopholes ...
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:31 AM
Oct 2012

... eliminate ALL laws dealing with the sale of firearms to American citizens exercising their RKBA.

Voila, no more loopholes.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
3. It makes it easier to connect buyer to seller
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:31 AM
Oct 2012

If there is an inadequacy in the laws, more information connecting buyers to sellers will of course magnify this inadequacy.

Solution: Wisconsin state legislature makes all firearm sales go through an FFL, and thus a background check. Or, Wisconsin keeps their own database of people ineligible to buy a gun, and makes FLLs in their state also check Wisconsin's database as well as the federal one.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
4. Online ads are no different than other local classified ads.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:33 AM
Oct 2012

Many local papers have a guns section in their classified ads.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
6. WTF does it having been an online sale have to do with it?
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 11:02 AM
Oct 2012

Morally inferior to him getting one out of the newspaper from a private seller?

Does an online classified ad from a news site count as a newspaper, or an online sale, or both?

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
7. Such bullshit
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 11:25 AM
Oct 2012

"Radcliffe Houghton bought a handgun legally just two days after a restraining order barred him from having one."

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
9. Isn't the premise in the title bass-ackwards?
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 11:50 AM
Oct 2012

Someone skipped their classes in logic if they think that results and causes are reversed.

Then, of course, there's the issue of the meaning of the word "loophole". Most of the anti's authors seem to have gaps in their vocabulary as well as logic.

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