Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumA New Court Decision Injects Some Sanity Into America's Gun Policy
One would be hard pressed to find better examples of the insanity and the sanity in our nation's gun policy than a recent shooting in Florida, and a recent decision by a federal appeals court in New York.
First the insanity. Remember Trayvon Martin, the 17-year-old African American gunned down in February by neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman, with a semiautomatic handgun that the State of Florida had licensed Zimmerman to carry, loaded and concealed?
It was an "Emperor has no clothes" moment, where the horrific damage to public safety done by NRA laws spurred national outrage.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-lowy/court-decisions-inject-sanity_b_2244132.html
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)both the cases he mentioned are yet to go to trial and he added a rumor that hasn't been proven.
the second is, the NRA had nothing to do with the case in New York. It wasn't even a second amendment case, it was 14th amendment case. My problem with the New York law is the arbitrary nature good cause. If you are going to restrict concealed carry beyond the standard shall issue, the those limitations should be on an objective criteria stated in the statute. Giving a county sheriff or a police sergeant the authority to make arbitrary decisions has no place in a liberal democracy.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Police discretion violates the principle of equality under the law.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)"With 100,000 shootings a year, the last thing we need is judges depriving us of our right to enact and enforce the laws Americans want and need to keep guns off our streets and communities."
He doesn't want anyone to interfere with his agenda; elected officials, judges, the Constitution.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)to support their point, the gun grabbers would ridicule that person to no end. If you wish to post something to support your point, at least make it an impartial news source. (Wait, is there such a thing these days on the topic of guns)?
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)And that's an example of of of the reasons the gun control lobby is weak these days-
they can't control the flow of information anymore
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)New York doesn't actually have higher standards, or training requirements. It seems that some counties have training requirements, but not all.
http://www.concealandcarryhq.com/index.php/new-york-concealed-carry-laws/
So in other words, Florida and Wyoming have uniform and objective standards. New York does not. Some are defacto shall issue, while NYC only requires you to have very deep pockets. That being the case, what makes New York's concealed carry laws "saner"?