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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 08:47 AM Dec 2012

New Hampshire Lawmaker, Seeks Gun Ban In Public Buildings

A newly elected New Hampshire state legislator has proposed legislation to ban openly carrying guns in public buildings.

State Rep.-elect Delmar Burridge (D-Keene) said he wants to stop the practice of carrying guns into public buildings, including schools, libraries and the Statehouse, as a way to make the state safer.

"It's outrageous," Burridge told HuffPost. "I don't think public employees, people who go to college should be subjected to this."

The legislation, which is gathering opposition from the state chapter of the National Rifle Association, would allow those with conceal carry permits to continue bringing guns into public buildings. Certified peace officers also still would be able to carry guns openly in public buildings under the legislation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/04/new-hampshire-gun-ban-delmar-burridge_n_2237278.html
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New Hampshire Lawmaker, Seeks Gun Ban In Public Buildings (Original Post) SecularMotion Dec 2012 OP
Classist bullshit. What an asshole. nt rrneck Dec 2012 #1
in the 230 years it has been legal gejohnston Dec 2012 #2
In my state it was illegal to carry in public buildings until the teabagnuts took Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #12
How many folks have died as a result? NT Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #13
The idiocy of our legislators stomping around armed and dangerous was Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #14
Damaging to the sanity of the state? Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #15
Sounds like a bad case of "moral harm" to me... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #16
NH has one of, if not the lowest violent crime rates in the country. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #18
Do NHers no longer respect each other? Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #19
Your concern is duly noted. PavePusher Dec 2012 #20
Carrying a weapon (openly I might add) in public is something I do daily Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #22
And what happened then? Nothing. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #17
I asked a very specific question Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #21
As long as concealed-carry is allowed, the state has power Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #3
It's a shame people don't trust one another. ileus Dec 2012 #4
An elected offical needs a Whambulance. PavePusher Dec 2012 #5
He doesn't seem to know his state's history, or cares not a wit about it. Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #8
AWWWWW Berserker Dec 2012 #6
there a lot of murders in NH public buildings are there? trouble.smith Dec 2012 #7
I heard it's like Damascus! Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #9
Mmmmmeh. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #10
"...as long as they provide for my protection and accept liability." PavePusher Dec 2012 #11
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
12. In my state it was illegal to carry in public buildings until the teabagnuts took
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 06:40 PM
Dec 2012

over the loonislature and made it legal two years ago.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
14. The idiocy of our legislators stomping around armed and dangerous was
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:29 PM
Dec 2012

Damaging to the sanity of this state. It was all part of the package of right wing authoritarianism that swept into power in 2010. Thankfully those assholes get swept out of power, and we will be undoing the crap they did.

Nobody got shot in the previous 230 years or so either.

One idiot did manage to drop his loaded gun on the floor of the general court.

Glaug-Eldare

(1,089 posts)
15. Damaging to the sanity of the state?
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 11:04 PM
Dec 2012

Do you mean that the incidence or severity of mental illness has increased, or are you comparing the "harm" of being exposed to non-violent people who live differently than you to real harm?

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
16. Sounds like a bad case of "moral harm" to me...
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 02:08 AM
Dec 2012
Robert Bork tried out that argument in 1971, in defense of prosecuting such victimless crimes as drug abuse, writing in the Indiana Law Journal that “knowledge that an activity is taking place is a harm to those who find it profoundly immoral.”

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
18. NH has one of, if not the lowest violent crime rates in the country.
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 12:19 PM
Dec 2012

What our loonislature did was a prime example of gun culture gone wild. Just because you have the right to carry a gun does not mean you should carry a gun. Carrying a weapon in public is in and of itself a threatening act that puts everyone else around you on guard. One should be armed because there is a reasonable threat justifying being armed. A culture that perceives all of public space as being so threatening that going about openly armed is reasonable is a culture that will not survive

Yes, what our loonislature did damaged our New England culture of gentility and respect. Thankfully the damage was short lived and will be undone.

Glaug-Eldare

(1,089 posts)
19. Do NHers no longer respect each other?
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 12:34 PM
Dec 2012

I can understand where you're coming from, but perceived harm to "New England culture" is a weak basis for any statute. There are good reasons to control who's armed in a state building, but that isn't one of them.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
20. Your concern is duly noted.
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:29 PM
Dec 2012

Did you realise that you sound exactly like a DOMA fan? Interesting, but it indicates that you may want to re-examine your assumptions. Good luck with that.



 

Trunk Monkey

(950 posts)
22. Carrying a weapon (openly I might add) in public is something I do daily
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 02:00 PM
Dec 2012
Carrying a weapon in public is in and of itself a threatening act that puts everyone else around you on guard.


I don't notice the people around me going on guard although I do get the occasional what kind of gun is that

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
17. And what happened then? Nothing.
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:20 AM
Dec 2012

Guns of modern design are drop safe. "Modern design" goes back almost 100 years.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
3. As long as concealed-carry is allowed, the state has power
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 12:41 PM
Dec 2012

to regulate the method of carry, IMO. They must protect the right to carry, one way or the other (or both).

ileus

(15,396 posts)
4. It's a shame people don't trust one another.
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:37 PM
Dec 2012

Public buildings should equal public access even when OCin.

 

Berserker

(3,419 posts)
6. AWWWWW
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 07:43 PM
Dec 2012

That's so cute are they the elite of our society?
"I don't think public employees, people who go to college should be subjected to this."

Glaug-Eldare

(1,089 posts)
10. Mmmmmeh.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 01:19 AM
Dec 2012

Not a huge deal..I'd say it fits into TPM, but I'd also say it's a solution looking for a problem. I've never carried, so I can't really judge the inconvenience of it all, but I don't see the horror in not being able to carry in state buildings, as long as they provide for my protection and accept liability. I suppose the harm Burridge is perceiving comes from having to cope with the reality of living around and among people he doesn't agree with.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
11. "...as long as they provide for my protection and accept liability."
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 12:33 PM
Dec 2012

And there's the sticking point. 'Cause they don't.

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