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CHIMO

(9,223 posts)
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 08:29 PM Mar 2012

So, Eric Holder, we should just trust that the president won't assassinate us?

Attorney General Eric Holder was at Northwestern University law school Monday explaining President Barack Obama's claimed authority to kill any American if he unilaterally determines them to be a threat to the nation. The choice of a law school was a curious place for discussion of authoritarian powers. Obama has replaced the constitutional protections afforded to citizens with a "trust me" pledge that Holder repeated Monday at Northwestern.

The good news is that Holder promised not to hunt citizens for sport. Holder proclaimed that:

"The president may use force abroad against a senior operational leader of a foreign terrorist organization with which the United States is at war – even if that individual happens to be a US citizen."

The use of the word "abroad" is interesting since senior administration officials have asserted that the president may kill an American anywhere and anytime, including in the United States. Holder's speech does not materially limit that claimed authority. He merely assures citizens that Obama will only kill those of us he finds abroad and a significant threat. Notably, Holder added, "Our legal authority is not limited to the battlefields in Afghanistan."

The Obama administration continues to stonewall efforts to get it to acknowledge the existence of a memo authorizing the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki. Democrats previously demanded the "torture memos" of the Bush administration that revealed both poor legal analysis by Judge Jay Bybee and Professor John Yoo to justify torture. Now, however, Democrats are largely silent in the face of a president claiming the right to unilaterally kill citizens.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/mar/06/eric-holder-trust-targeted-assassination

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So, Eric Holder, we should just trust that the president won't assassinate us? (Original Post) CHIMO Mar 2012 OP
Obama isn't the problem billybob537 Mar 2012 #1
Dead or Alive zipplewrath Mar 2012 #2

billybob537

(3,840 posts)
1. Obama isn't the problem
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 09:25 PM
Mar 2012

It's bad but what should scare the everloving crap outta you is: What happens when one of these Fox fed propaganda Christofascists becomes President and deciedes everyone who isn't a fascistchristian is an imenent threat???
That's a whole new meaning to SCAREY!!!!!!!!!!!!

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
2. Dead or Alive
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 09:35 PM
Mar 2012

I don't dispute that there is a certain amount of "police" authority here. Something akin to fleeing felons. You have actors that are "outside of our reach" while simultaneously threatening the US. We can "take a shot" just as much as police snipers in a hostage situation. The problem here seems to be around the fact that we are identifying these people days/weeks/months in advance. We have "secret courts" to handle much of this stuff. I don't understand why there isn't a desire to utilize these structures to create a multiple branch due process.

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