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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Thu May 11, 2017, 04:45 PM May 2017

Trump just cut a program for next-generation military high-tech because it's "digital"

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/trump-may-have-derailed-a-crucial-part-of-americas-futu-1795121555

It looks like after almost a decade of development, the ultra-advanced Gerald R. Ford supercarrier will be commissioned this year. An important detail about this ship, the first of its class, is that it does not use steam catapults to launch planes as is traditional, but instead uses an electromagnetic system to fling them into the air. And then President Donald Trump opened his mouth.

From a Time interview with the president that went live this morning:

"You know the catapult is quite important. So I said what is this? Sir, this is our digital catapult system. He said well, we’re going to this because we wanted to keep up with modern technology. I said you don’t use steam anymore for catapult? No sir. I said, “Ah, how is it working?” “Sir, not good. Not good. Doesn’t have the power.

You know the steam is just brutal. You see that sucker going and steam’s going all over the place, there’s planes thrown in the air.”

It sounded bad to me. Digital. They have digital. What is digital? And it’s very complicated, you have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out. And I said–and now they want to buy more aircraft carriers. I said what system are you going to be–”Sir, we’re staying with digital.”

I said no you’re not. You going to goddamned steam, the digital costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money and it’s no good."


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What’s not immediately clear is whether or not this change is occurring because of the president’s suggestion; I called the office of the Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Navy for Research, Development, and Acquisition, which oversees the program, to see if they knew anything about this massive new procurement change and its implications. I have yet to hear back.

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And that’s because there’s a reason why the latest and greatest aircraft carriers will use EMALS, and not steam catapults. It works just fine for a lot of the aircraft on ships now, but for the drones that will be flying in the skies more than 50 years from now, when the Ford-class is still expected to be in service, a new solution is needed.

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Maybe I’m crazy though. So to find out, I asked Dr. Robert Farley, a specialist in military diffusion, maritime affairs, and national security at the Patterson School of Diplomacy and International Commerce at the University of Kentucky, and our resident carrier expert, if this was all nuts. And it turns out, maybe not.

“I can confirm that this is absolutely nuts,” he said. The whole idea of ripping out the launch system in the already-built Ford, and re-designing the following carriers (including the already-under construction USS Enterprise), would be “immensely expensive.”
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Trump just cut a program for next-generation military high-tech because it's "digital" (Original Post) DetlefK May 2017 OP
That is just FF45 feeling his inner Generalissimo..... Thomas Hurt May 2017 #1
Maybe he has the catapults confused with steam locomotives, so many of which burned coal. mahatmakanejeeves May 2017 #2
Digital! What are they gonna think of next?! defacto7 May 2017 #3
Thank you for posting. I knew a Navy pilot who died Ilsa May 2017 #4

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
1. That is just FF45 feeling his inner Generalissimo.....
Thu May 11, 2017, 04:51 PM
May 2017

personally directing multi billion dollar military projects like Adolph.

Thinking he can have another company build a fighter plane for cheaper when they did not design and have not re-tooled for it.....or this, re-designing carriers and tearing out the flight decks and such.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,465 posts)
2. Maybe he has the catapults confused with steam locomotives, so many of which burned coal.
Thu May 11, 2017, 04:57 PM
May 2017

With steam catapults, he can put those miners back to work.



Yes, I know we're talking about two different things here. But does 45?

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
3. Digital! What are they gonna think of next?!
Thu May 11, 2017, 05:18 PM
May 2017

They use their fingers! The ship is secured by using Latin for secrecy!

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
4. Thank you for posting. I knew a Navy pilot who died
Thu May 11, 2017, 06:39 PM
May 2017

because the steam catapult didn't power-up fully, and my friend's aircraft crashed into the ocean. The crash rendered him unconscious and he either drowned or died from impact injuries. Poor man's fiancée was overwhelmed with grief and committed suicide. I'm not sure if there was a second officer or RIO or other personnel onboard.

If the EMALS becomes the statistically best method for launch of manned craft, it should be used, no matter the cost. If Dolt45 interferes, I hope the admirals ignore him and do the right thing.

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