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1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 07:54 PM Jun 2015

AA Group Family and Friends ...

My account has been re-activated!!!

I woke up this morning to discover I had had a post hidden. I reviewed the post (after all ... I did have a beer last night) and thought I have posted way more inflammatory stuff than the hidden post ... and I have had far more inflammatory stuff directed towards me. So I sat down and fired off a tongue in cheek OP (riffing on what I, and others, have been noticing) and posted it in the AA Group, as I know I've seen some REALLY flame worthy stuff posted in "protected groups."

I went to pour myself a cup of coffee ... and returned to find my account had been flagged for review.

While anyone can click on the "show post" link, and see what that was about ... I want to acknowledge the display of support. Thank you.

But ... if posting a question about a candidate for public office ... a question that has been the subject of numerous articles and OPs in mainstream media ... is considered hide worthy (even though, similar posts have been posted to DU, unmolested); and, if writing a post expressing a concern that a candidate is NOT speaking to me, as an African-American, in a way that is persuasive, and making a generalized mocking of the arguments posed by his supporters, that miss the entire point of my concern, are hide worthy (but the personalized and specific attacks in response ... hell ... the hiding jury's comments, go unmolested) ... then, perhaps I am in the wrong spot.

I'm going to take a break, take a breath and consider and, possibly, return.

Peace Family!

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AA Group Family and Friends ... (Original Post) 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 OP
What was done to you shows how bad things have gotten here. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #1
Really? Which ones? R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 #83
Which ones what? hrmjustin Jul 2015 #87
"People are being targeted." R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #88
HRC supporters and those who question Sanders. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #89
You might want to review the members that I had posted. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #90
I was not speaking about the first two. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #91
Yes, but I was talking about them: all three. Yo had not actually mentioned anybody by name. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #94
As I said I can't speak to them. If you can go for it. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #96
Please STOP disrupting this forum. There are a ton of places here for this needless mess Number23 Jul 2015 #98
I'm not disrupting anything. I haven't insulted anybody. I asked a few questions. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #100
When we talk about real shit, you are nowhere to be found. But you are all up in this mess Number23 Jul 2015 #101
Can you post where I have "stirred up shit?" R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #103
I'm blocking you now. Hopefully you won't receive a "note of condolence" from anyone Number23 Jul 2015 #105
This was a good block and I fully support it Number23 JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #112
Thanks, JAG. That poster is mighty salty about his block Number23 Jul 2015 #131
Block him from sending you messages JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #138
Yes, you are.. you brought up SKP who got himself banned.. he and 1Strong are nothing alike yet Cha Jul 2015 #109
"And 1SBM got hidden posts for questioning Sanders." R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #97
Here you go. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #99
Thanks. Really. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #102
See that's where you're wrong. There's nothing "silly" about them. That's your silly opinion. Cha Jul 2015 #110
Silly?? Would someone get rid of this troll, please! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #148
Oh please. Give it a rest. *You* are the one who acts deviously by editing posts after replies cui bono Jul 2015 #132
This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Jul 2015 #136
Take this crap OUT OF HERE. Number23 Jul 2015 #137
SKP was not "targeted".. SKP got himself banned. Talk to the Admins. Cha Jul 2015 #108
I know what you mean. bravenak Jun 2015 #2
Please don't go... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #3
It's a huge tent here. Might I suggest that if you let a few... TreasonousBastard Jun 2015 #4
But that would miss the point. When an AfAm member is repeatedly attacked as several here were randys1 Jun 2015 #38
I hope that you come back. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2015 #5
The first post was a good question/comment, SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #6
I'm with you n/t tooeyeten Jun 2015 #54
Welcome back. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #7
I can't say as I blame you... sheshe2 Jun 2015 #8
Take a break JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #9
I no longer understand wtf is going on here. Take a break; stay cool; come back. Hekate Jun 2015 #10
Come back soon azmom Jun 2015 #11
Glad to see you and I hope you have a good break boston bean Jun 2015 #12
Welcome back! Agschmid Jun 2015 #13
If you're here, we can't talk behind your back tishaLA Jun 2015 #14
You are not in the wrong spot. brer cat Jun 2015 #15
1SBM, I'm glad you're vindicated. I hope you spend time lurking during your breather. Half-Century Man Jun 2015 #16
Anyone not cheerleading for Bernie Sanders is being sufrommich Jun 2015 #17
Uhhh...no. SoapBox Jun 2015 #31
Yep. Phlem Jun 2015 #35
Uhhh..bull. It's pretty obvious what's going on here. sufrommich Jun 2015 #36
Uhh Yes. You're wrong. Su is right. Cha Jun 2015 #48
Sorry but i disagree with you. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #51
~ L0oniX Jun 2015 #71
Please stop it. R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 #84
We've had enough. If you and Loonix are here to stir the shit, STOP. Number23 Jul 2015 #92
"Please stop it" is considered stirring shit up? R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #93
You've posted more today than you ever have before. And none of it has been the slightest bit Number23 Jul 2015 #95
Hey can you help me? I was banned from the Bernie group for underthematrix Jul 2015 #104
Why should she be quiet?. There's too much alert and purge censoring going on here. Cha Jul 2015 #107
I've taken vacations, too, especially after bogus hides Warpy Jun 2015 #18
Yeah! Serial alerters should be identified. immoderate Jul 2015 #120
Breaks from DU are good for many reasons... Spazito Jun 2015 #19
how do they decide flag for review ? JI7 Jun 2015 #20
It's automated BainsBane Jun 2015 #23
it's it based on number of alerts ? JI7 Jun 2015 #25
Yes, two in a short period of time BainsBane Jun 2015 #27
Yep, I am doing the same thing heaven05 Jun 2015 #21
Oh, damn. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #24
backatcha heaven05 Jun 2015 #28
It is becoming unforgivable here. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #44
Dude, Mbrow Jun 2015 #22
Thanks for your post, Mbrow.. it's heartening. Cha Jun 2015 #50
+1 freshwest Jul 2015 #86
Glad to hear from your kind of supporter. Others drove me off after supporting him for years. freshwest Jul 2015 #141
Take care awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #26
Take a break, have some beers but not too many, then come back 1SBM Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #29
Glad you're unflagged BainsBane Jun 2015 #30
I don't comment much anymore but I do read your threads and I'm sure there are others like me. seaglass Jun 2015 #32
Welcome back my friend Gothmog Jun 2015 #33
This sucks. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #34
+1 yardwork Jun 2015 #40
Yep. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #45
Some of the same old trolls still hanging around. yardwork Jun 2015 #46
^^What she said.^^ Gormy Cuss Jun 2015 #64
Right? He's a mensch. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #65
Oh man ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #37
Penalizing posters is not Democratic. We're human, we disagree and agree, move along get over it. YOHABLO Jun 2015 #39
I'm sorry for the thread hide and the resulting flag. Solly Mack Jun 2015 #41
"If you're trolling protected groups just to find something to alert on, you should be banned." SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #58
I think so. Solly Mack Jun 2015 #63
Absolutely, Solly. brer cat Jun 2015 #79
William769 sheshe2 Jul 2015 #118
The DUers behind the "Atwater" accusation and hide should be ashamed of themselves. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #42
+1 Milliion. Cha Jun 2015 #52
How can they help Bernie improve his appeal to African Americans if they silence African Americans?" SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #59
Excellent point. Koinos Jun 2015 #80
Not my point (first quotation mark got lost), SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #81
Well said, SunSeeker. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #69
Exactly. yardwork Jul 2015 #111
and again repeated it in GD BainsBane Jul 2015 #124
"Pretends" to be black? OMG SunSeeker Jul 2015 #125
Incredibly offensive BainsBane Jul 2015 #126
Disgusting. Well, thanks for trying. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #128
Thanks very much, SunSeeker. BainsBane Jul 2015 #130
Can you link me to that post, Bain? TIA Number23 Jul 2015 #134
Yes, and now there is an OP BainsBane Jul 2015 #135
Love your posts 1sbm! longship Jun 2015 #43
"The lock/hide has become the discussion trump card" Of course I can't really say what I think Cha Jun 2015 #47
Big bear hug BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #49
Hillary Clinton gets accused of being a racist EVERY DAY on this damn web site Number23 Jun 2015 #53
On one hand, Jamaal510 Jun 2015 #77
1SBM, I hope to see you back soon lunamagica Jun 2015 #55
I'm really curious how that alert was framed to get your op in AA hidden. Warren Stupidity Jun 2015 #56
I was a juror on that post mcar Jun 2015 #57
I'm glad your account was re-activated. lovemydog Jun 2015 #60
WTF is going on around here lately? blackspade Jun 2015 #61
You keep on keeping on. Stryder Jun 2015 #62
As a strong progressive - I really don't care who wins the Dem nomination asiliveandbreathe Jun 2015 #66
I read the posts and missed what was offensive in them. guillaumeb Jun 2015 #67
You and I have discussed taking breaks from time to time. Glassunion Jun 2015 #68
I've appreciated your posts on DU. I hope I'll continue to see them. n/t Mister Ed Jun 2015 #70
Don't feel bad....the same thing happened to me...signed, KauaiK Jun 2015 #72
When it happened to me... Stellar Jun 2015 #76
I would honestly miss your comments and opinions. mountain grammy Jun 2015 #73
Kick sheshe2 Jun 2015 #74
Kick sheshe2 Jun 2015 #75
You know how I feel about you and your attempt to educate all of us, including me. I like to think freshwest Jun 2015 #78
Please stay. We need your wise words. nt s-cubed Jun 2015 #82
Breaks help but don't let anyone run you off, they win, too many stand behind you .... AuntPatsy Jul 2015 #85
You've been asking deep questions about all the candidates. Please proceed! n/t eridani Jul 2015 #106
I will simply ask you donnasgirl Jul 2015 #113
Hope you're back soon... freebrew Jul 2015 #114
I'm elated that you were re-activated, but it should never have happened in the first place. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #115
Yeah, welcome to the club. Ask a question, get beat up on. jtuck004 Jul 2015 #116
Long time reader - recently de-lurked (un-lurking?) The Polack MSgt Jul 2015 #117
IT wont be safe to say this elsewhere, probably not here either, but I just saw Hillary being randys1 Jul 2015 #119
Do you mean "the party and it's (sic) candidate" or "candidateS"? kath Jul 2015 #122
Overindulged, privileged, white, mostly male, Libertarians/Brogressives have hijacked this place YoungDemCA Jul 2015 #121
+10^10^100 nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #123
+ A gazillion! "They do Bernie Sanders NO favors by acting this way." Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #127
You are spot on, actually. Gotta say it while you still can randys1 Jul 2015 #129
They are congenitally unable to feel shame. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #133
Thanks for your post, YDCA! Cha Jul 2015 #140
There it is. n/t freshwest Jul 2015 #142
Nailed it...nt SidDithers Jul 2015 #143
Their habit of instant attack and projection is maddening. betsuni Jul 2015 #146
If you take a break, please make it short. You have my heart. n/t freshwest Jul 2015 #139
I just wanted to say hi to you today! lovemydog Jul 2015 #144
Hope you are back soon. But I am pretty disgusted too. bettyellen Jul 2015 #145
Kicked!!! onpatrol98 Jul 2015 #147
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
91. I was not speaking about the first two.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:29 AM
Jul 2015

And 1SBM got hidden posts for questioning Sanders.

You brought up two namrs that i wasnot talking about.

I can't speak to them.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
94. Yes, but I was talking about them: all three. Yo had not actually mentioned anybody by name.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:44 AM
Jul 2015

"People are being targeted" is a fact, but perhaps you need to see that others are included in that targeting besides 1SBM.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
98. Please STOP disrupting this forum. There are a ton of places here for this needless mess
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:45 AM
Jul 2015

no one is in the mood for this here.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
100. I'm not disrupting anything. I haven't insulted anybody. I asked a few questions.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:48 AM
Jul 2015

Seriously, can you handle that?

The most I did was ask somebody to stop accusing others. Is that a disruption?

Number23

(24,544 posts)
101. When we talk about real shit, you are nowhere to be found. But you are all up in this mess
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:50 AM
Jul 2015

I am asking you AGAIN to stop participating in this forum.

You aren't asking questions. You are stirring the shit. And everyone here can see it.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
105. I'm blocking you now. Hopefully you won't receive a "note of condolence" from anyone
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:13 AM
Jul 2015

because it's obvious that you are just being a pain.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
112. This was a good block and I fully support it Number23
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:26 AM
Jul 2015

The nonsense arguments need to be taken to GD. This is not the group for that.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
131. Thanks, JAG. That poster is mighty salty about his block
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 04:59 PM
Jul 2015

Have no idea why we've been getting so many "visitors" lately. Actually, I have some idea.

This forum has been here for over three years. We've built a core group of posters and any are welcome to participate as long as they don't start nothing. For two years, we had like three posters on block. That number's gone up considerably just in the last two months and I think it's indicative of how poisonous the site is now.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
109. Yes, you are.. you brought up SKP who got himself banned.. he and 1Strong are nothing alike yet
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 02:48 AM
Jul 2015

here you are.. disrupting.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
97. "And 1SBM got hidden posts for questioning Sanders."
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:45 AM
Jul 2015

Do you have links to the questioning/offending posts? I am actually interested in reading them.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
132. Oh please. Give it a rest. *You* are the one who acts deviously by editing posts after replies
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 05:00 PM
Jul 2015

have been made, even replies by yourself. Yet 20 min. later you edit my post to make me look wrong.

*Your* group is the one who acts as if it is at war with other DUers, plotting against them in your little safe haven. The Bernie group gets negative posts shut down in there. Grow the fuck up already. And if you can't do that at least go look in the mirror.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=6967


Response to cui bono (Reply #132)

Number23

(24,544 posts)
137. Take this crap OUT OF HERE.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 06:01 PM
Jul 2015

Please do not come back to this thread. Take your issues with justin to PM, to GD or wherever.

But you are not going to bring this idiocy in here.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. It's a huge tent here. Might I suggest that if you let a few...
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:00 PM
Jun 2015

chase you off, you are letting them win. Not that winning or losing in this context means a lot.

I understand that few of us have anything real invested in this anonymous crowd, and any worthwhile efforts might be better spent elsewhere. I've certainly felt that way enough times.

But, after investing all that time and energy here so far, it would be a shame to see you disappear.



randys1

(16,286 posts)
38. But that would miss the point. When an AfAm member is repeatedly attacked as several here were
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:35 PM
Jun 2015

in the way they were a point has to be made, somehow.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
6. The first post was a good question/comment,
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:01 PM
Jun 2015

and I'm a Bernie supporter.

The second post was hilarious.

I'm glad you're back.

On closer reading and edit, I'm glad you're out of limbo. Please come back!

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
7. Welcome back.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:02 PM
Jun 2015

Here's hoping you stay.

FWIW, I asked a five word question: "Who is on Team Sanders?" and some beast with a ballerina dancing on its back responded with "What is your POINT?".

Thank dog no one knows me from Adam, else I'd be in DUgatory for sure.

Hang tough, friend.

sheshe2

(83,793 posts)
8. I can't say as I blame you...
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:02 PM
Jun 2015

1StrongBlackMan.

We are just meme's to them.

I will miss you, I hope you will return.



Sheshe~

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
14. If you're here, we can't talk behind your back
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:09 PM
Jun 2015

about how much we like you. Please let us behave like normal middle class people and talk behind your back for a few minutes.

And then hurry back.

brer cat

(24,578 posts)
15. You are not in the wrong spot.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:10 PM
Jun 2015

But this place is downright crazy now, and anything can happen, as we saw with that totally bogus hide. You are loved and respected by many here, and we hope to see you back and telling it like it is.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
17. Anyone not cheerleading for Bernie Sanders is being
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:10 PM
Jun 2015

alert stalked. I don't care if this gets a hide,it's beyond obvious at this point.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
31. Uhhh...no.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:26 PM
Jun 2015

There are just a handful of freaks and weirdos, that have nothing better to do than cause trouble.

And they come from all spectrums. This type of statement unfortunately, is part of the wider problem going on here at DU at this time.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
51. Sorry but i disagree with you.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:15 PM
Jun 2015

HRC supporters and those who question Sanders are being targeted.

I think what happened to 1StrongBlackMan made that very clear.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
92. We've had enough. If you and Loonix are here to stir the shit, STOP.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:39 AM
Jul 2015

This forum has been here for over three YEARS and we're getting all of these recent "pop ins" from people who never felt the need to pop in before.

Please see yourselves out of this forum. No one is the mood for this and especially not now.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
95. You've posted more today than you ever have before. And none of it has been the slightest bit
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:44 AM
Jul 2015

helpful or wanted.

Please stop trying to waste our time. Just go.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
104. Hey can you help me? I was banned from the Bernie group for
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:07 AM
Jul 2015

being offensive. I was told I could delete my post or apologize but I can't find the post or the Bernie group. I want to delete my post as it caused many complaints because it was found to be offensive. I just need help to find it. Thank you.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
107. Why should she be quiet?. There's too much alert and purge censoring going on here.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 02:24 AM
Jul 2015

Too bad if there're those who don't want it talked about.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
18. I've taken vacations, too, especially after bogus hides
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:12 PM
Jun 2015

when some word jumper or outrage troll has gotten lucky with a jury. They especially like to troll protected groups, not much protection in them. Maybe membership should be required to alert in a group. Maybe alerts should be tracked so the people who alert on every single word they think someone somewhere might be offended by can be identified and booted as disrupters, something really needs to be done.

I look forward to your return, anyway.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
120. Yeah! Serial alerters should be identified.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 03:14 PM
Jul 2015

And I am grateful for the presence of 1SBM on DU.

--imm

Spazito

(50,375 posts)
19. Breaks from DU are good for many reasons...
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:13 PM
Jun 2015

I've taken a few for sure.

Enjoy your time away but I do hope you return before too long, I learn a lot from your posts and will miss them.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
20. how do they decide flag for review ?
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:14 PM
Jun 2015

I bet those who alerted what you posted are those who regularly attack others .

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
21. Yep, I am doing the same thing
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:16 PM
Jun 2015

A break from the hypocrisy of some on here is as good thing. I just came back to post because of the insanity of what was done to you. I'm outta here for a while. I believe in you and a few more here.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
28. backatcha
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:21 PM
Jun 2015
getting unforgivable around here with some of the obvious hate being directed at people. ISBM had a relevant statement, no bashing and this bullshit happens. Privilege is what privilege is and it's showing here, big time.

sheshe2

(83,793 posts)
44. It is becoming unforgivable here.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:58 PM
Jun 2015

I know that. One of 1Strongs points were, to paraphrase, "you are talking at me not to me." Yet they continued to put 1Strong in his place. Privilege.

Be well my friend, I hope to see you soon.

Mbrow

(1,090 posts)
22. Dude,
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:17 PM
Jun 2015

I hope you stay, the whole thing sounded like B.S to me. while I'm a big Bernie fan, I'm getting tired of the nonsense
that seems to be going on here. Most of the people in either camp are good people, it appears that we have some shit stirrers in DU who get their kicks from causing hate and discontent. Again while I hope Bernie wins, guess what? If Hillary gets the nod, she will get my support. Good Luck!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
141. Glad to hear from your kind of supporter. Others drove me off after supporting him for years.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:38 PM
Jul 2015

I can't trust them think in all the people's best interests. At times some will come and make nice comments, then run to another forum and post GOP stuff or whatever just to be anti-HRC. She and Bernie are personal friends, she bankrolled him in the past. We should act as they do and work for the country.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
26. Take care
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:19 PM
Jun 2015

Sometimes getting away for a bit is needed. That being said, I don't think anything you would post would be hide worthy- juries are screwy sometimes.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
30. Glad you're unflagged
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:25 PM
Jun 2015

and understand the need to take a break. Those were some wild hides. I fear it is the harbinger of more to come.

seaglass

(8,173 posts)
32. I don't comment much anymore but I do read your threads and I'm sure there are others like me.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:28 PM
Jun 2015

Your voice is needed, I hope you'll come back.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
34. This sucks.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:29 PM
Jun 2015

You have been nothing but patient and even-handed. I really wish the admins would take a serious stance on the way minorities are treated here.

You also stick up for feminists around here, which as a host of one our feminist groups, I really appreciate.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
39. Penalizing posters is not Democratic. We're human, we disagree and agree, move along get over it.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:37 PM
Jun 2015

If something on here offends you, move along, life is not pretty. People are going to say things you don't either agree with or find offensive. I think motorcycles are offensive, as well as public smokers. Can I call in a jury to have them wiped off the street?

Solly Mack

(90,773 posts)
41. I'm sorry for the thread hide and the resulting flag.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:48 PM
Jun 2015

I read the post and saw nothing hide-worthy.

I will never understand what people gain from trolling protected groups just to find ways to be offended.

It has to be personal and that makes it petty. My view of a protected group is just that - it's a group for safe expression. If you don't want to be offended by what you might read in a protected group - don't click on the group. If you're trolling protected groups just to find something to alert on, you should be banned. If you troll protected groups just to stalk a certain poster in order to alert on them, you should be banned.

For that matter, those who stalk just to harass and alert should be banned.

Bad behavior should be alerted on, of course, but that's not what I see happening for the most part in protected groups. I've been on a few juries involving protected groups and you can tell when the alert is a case of someone reading posts just to find something, anything, to alert.

Again, I'm sorry you were the victim of this petty behavior. Don't take a break. It's what they want - and never, ever give them what they want.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
58. "If you're trolling protected groups just to find something to alert on, you should be banned."
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:44 PM
Jun 2015

Sounds reasonable to me.

brer cat

(24,578 posts)
79. Absolutely, Solly.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:32 PM
Jun 2015

Stalking can be traced and they need to be gone. "Protected" groups are meaningless if there can't be free expression without fear of an alert by someone outside the group.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
42. The DUers behind the "Atwater" accusation and hide should be ashamed of themselves.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:53 PM
Jun 2015

Instead of listening to you and trying to find out why Bernie Sanders does not speak to you as a black man, they shamefully attacked you. They are not doing their candidate any favors. They should have wanted to hear you out, not insult you and hide your post. How can they help Bernie improve his appeal to African Americans if they silence African Americans?

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
59. How can they help Bernie improve his appeal to African Americans if they silence African Americans?"
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:46 PM
Jun 2015

Exactly.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
124. and again repeated it in GD
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 04:17 PM
Jul 2015

compounding the insult by saying the OP "pretends" to be black.

A jury likewise declined to hide that post.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
126. Incredibly offensive
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 04:23 PM
Jul 2015

Just awful. I commented and alerted, but I wasn't the first. It had come back 2-5.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
128. Disgusting. Well, thanks for trying.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 04:26 PM
Jul 2015

And thanks for your posts in general, BainsBane. I always enjoy them.

longship

(40,416 posts)
43. Love your posts 1sbm!
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:56 PM
Jun 2015

Don't let the fools here drive you away. I know that you are likely upset, but there are many here who will miss your learned and rational posts.


Cha

(297,323 posts)
47. "The lock/hide has become the discussion trump card" Of course I can't really say what I think
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:08 PM
Jun 2015

about this or my post will get hidden. And, I just got a hide the other night that was completely bogus but this wouldn't be.

I can imagine how you must feel.. not even having a safe place to post your concerns about a candidate for public office in the AA Group. Just want to say I will miss your posts, 1StrongBlackMan. I wish you and your family Peace, too.

BumRushDaShow

(129,128 posts)
49. Big bear hug
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:13 PM
Jun 2015


(hope your wife don't mind. )

Good triumphs over evil. I have watched many virulent stalkers flame-out. It's only a matter of time.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
53. Hillary Clinton gets accused of being a racist EVERY DAY on this damn web site
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:22 PM
Jun 2015

And Lord knows she's done and said some questionably racist crap which is why none of us raise much of a fuss when it happens.

And yet, I have never seen ONE of the people screaming about your post where you questioned BS's commitment to black issues complaining that Hillary gets called a "racist".

The BULLSHIT and the hypocrisy are too much. As a black man, as an AMERICAN apparently daring to even question what BS would do is too much for the fragile and delicate fee fees of his supporters. This place has jumped the shark and gone off the deep end for years but this just too much.

I don't blame you for taking a break. I honestly don't want you to come back. Not because you are not loved and your voice is not appreciated. But because this place has been taken over so fully and so completely by libertarians that don't give a SHIT about us that it's honestly not worth the trouble. They are NEVER going to give a damn and they've made that clear and have completely taken over this board. So why bother?

Enjoy your break. Don't come back here. Send me a PM and I'll meet you somewhere else.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
77. On one hand,
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:02 PM
Jun 2015
I don't blame you for taking a break. I honestly don't want you to come back. Not because you are not loved and your voice is not appreciated. But because this place has been taken over so fully and so completely by libertarians that don't give a SHIT about us that it's honestly not worth the trouble. They are NEVER going to give a damn and they've made that clear and have completely taken over this board. So why bother?


I think it's a shame to basically be forced to give in to them and let them have their way on this place even more. Both you and 1SBM always have made excellent points when battling them here. But on the other hand, I understand 100% why a person might want to take a hiatus from here (temporarily or permanently). When I first found DU about 3 years ago, I never would've expected the RW/libertarian troll problem to be this intense. I was naive and thought the TOS would be more strictly enforced, and that I wouldn't see people (and a certain president) getting name-called. I came here to get away from them on places like YouTube and Yahoo! They're like ants; they infest and takeover everywhere they go online.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
55. 1SBM, I hope to see you back soon
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:38 PM
Jun 2015

I bet you'll read this and say, "who is that?" , but I'm sure there are many like me who aren't that well known who really love your posts. You have many more people who support you than you know.

It's sad to see intelligent, reasonable posters leave, while the disruptive, crazy ones stay.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
56. I'm really curious how that alert was framed to get your op in AA hidden.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:39 PM
Jun 2015

What a massively stupid jury decision.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
57. I was a juror on that post
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:43 PM
Jun 2015

Voted to not hide.

I am very concerned with what is going on here lately. It really seems like good DUers are being targeted.

I like your posts and hope you stay around and stay diligent.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
60. I'm glad your account was re-activated.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:48 PM
Jun 2015

Those hides were ridiculous. They were great posts. I've really appreciated interacting with you 1StrongBlackMan. I wish you and your family and loved ones all the best. If you do come back I and many others will be delighted to keep talking with you. Take care my friend.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
61. WTF is going on around here lately?
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:49 PM
Jun 2015

The stalking that goes on around here is alarming...and fucking annoying.

Stryder

(450 posts)
62. You keep on keeping on.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:56 PM
Jun 2015

I've enjoyed any discussion you've been a part of.
But I do tend to keep my head down.
Don't let my low posts# fool you.
I've been reading DU since before Kerry.
Guess that makes me a "lurker."
But I'm a much better listener than I
am a talker.
Besides someone always seems to
articulate my thoughts much better than I can.
(I generally read the responses before I respond.)
Crap, I'm rambling. See what I mean.
Anyway, hope to hear more from you soon.
Much peace to you. And I'm glad to see, much support.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
66. As a strong progressive - I really don't care who wins the Dem nomination
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 10:09 PM
Jun 2015

I have seen, and heard, as you have, enough hate and bigotry and feigned offense, to last a life time....from the righties..

Yes, I am new to commenting, but I have been reading DU for years...everyone is so informed and smart and passionate on many subjects..

When you bring an article to DU it makes me want to know more - so I research - and research..you have no idea how much research just to be able to comment intelligently..I have learned so much..I find my comment is like # 50-100 so many times - like a sally come lately - yea - sometimes I get snarky - but not AT any poster..just the subject matter..

When we as DEMS or progressives start to dissolve into petty bickering rather than take the challenge and DEBATE the issue we divide in our mission...just like the PUMAs of yesterday...that was not nice!

If you know who is launching someone on the site - as I am witnessing someone did to a very liked member of DU - then a strong message needs to be sent to the admins..as some of you have done....if you know who it is then present your case to DU admin just as you have done here...and on the other thread concerning 1SBM..

We CANNOT be divided - there is too much at stake....my best to all!

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
68. You and I have discussed taking breaks from time to time.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 10:09 PM
Jun 2015

Sometimes it gets pretty thick around here...

But sometimes, when this place gets on me, I retreat back here to our group, or C&B (depending on my mood), and just chill for a bit. I don't post in our group as often as I should, but I prefer to just read and know that there are those who can feel me and can relate. It's a comforting, common brother and sisterhood that we share.

Sure there are those posters that make DU suck at times... You know who I'm taking about; Name Removed, or the AverageJoe or his sock puppets that pop in from time to time.

But I want you to know that your voice, is always one that can center my thoughts. I always enjoy reading your posts. They remind me what we are all here for.

If you need a break, then take one. We will wait for your return. If you need to talk, send me a PM and I'll give you my number. But don't let this place get you down.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
76. When it happened to me...
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:00 PM
Jun 2015

It was due to my ignorance in politics. I only joined this site because it reminded me of my late husband and he was deep into it. I wanted to apologize but, oh well....water under the bridge now.

mountain grammy

(26,626 posts)
73. I would honestly miss your comments and opinions.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 10:54 PM
Jun 2015

I think your voice is needed in this board.

Whatever your decision, I wish you well.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
78. You know how I feel about you and your attempt to educate all of us, including me. I like to think
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:24 PM
Jun 2015
I have learned a lot from you. But when the urge is very strong, as it has been for me at times, just follow this advice:



And when Obama said Bucket, that's what he meant.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
114. Hope you're back soon...
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:40 PM
Jul 2015

your voice adds a lot to the many discussions here.

Not sure who the disrupters really are here, there seem to be many.

It's discouraging.

I say: ignore them and type on. They're not real.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
115. I'm elated that you were re-activated, but it should never have happened in the first place.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:49 PM
Jul 2015

Alert stalking sucks, and anyone who has raised this issue is summarily dismissed. There have to be some protections for those of us who don't worship at the altar of St. Bernard. We are literally in the minority here, and if you're a Hillary supporter, it's a double whammy.

Enjoy your summer, and come back reinvigorated.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
116. Yeah, welcome to the club. Ask a question, get beat up on.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:58 PM
Jul 2015


I think Sanders is our only hope, but I've been the object of his supporters crude and adolescent strategies myself, and came to the conclusion that among his supporters are his biggest liabilities. I have my doubts that they will get out of the way so he can win, but we will see.

So you may want to stay - sure would hate to think they ran you off and cost him an election too.



The Polack MSgt

(13,190 posts)
117. Long time reader - recently de-lurked (un-lurking?)
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 02:21 PM
Jul 2015

Just joined the other day, but I know your handle and respect your opinions, as well as the clarity you show in writing them.
I have no deep thoughts to offer, just want to wish you well.
Peace

randys1

(16,286 posts)
119. IT wont be safe to say this elsewhere, probably not here either, but I just saw Hillary being
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 02:41 PM
Jul 2015

viciously attacked because she might miss a cabinet meeting and was concerned about missing it.

Yes, that is what I read, here, on DU.

I hope the Democratic Party isnt looking at DU for ANY help in the manner of support, cuz those who support the party and it's candidate are BADLY out numbered by some other group.

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
121. Overindulged, privileged, white, mostly male, Libertarians/Brogressives have hijacked this place
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 03:28 PM
Jul 2015

And have turned it into an excuse to viciously beat up on and troll Democratic politicians AND Democratic voters- especially our first black President and potentially our first woman in the White House, and their supporters ( many of whom are women and minorities).

They do Bernie Sanders NO favors by acting this way. They should be ashamed of themselves. They know who they are.

Sorry for the negative, hostile atmosphere here 1SBM. I wish you well.

betsuni

(25,544 posts)
146. Their habit of instant attack and projection is maddening.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 03:34 AM
Jul 2015

I saw a comment somewhere about the members of the Angry White Band and wrote it down: "Their version of empathy is to put yourself in the position of the Other as if the Other were a giant asshole." A giant asshole and a liar.

It's such a shame that every time I think about Bernie Sanders I get a sour feeling, and that's only because of the appalling behavior of those people here. I have to remind myself that it has nothing to do with Bernie, they're a weird cult of reality-assassins living in personal mountain caves hyped up on some sort of group hysteria.

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