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My account has been re-activated!!!
I woke up this morning to discover I had had a post hidden. I reviewed the post (after all ... I did have a beer last night) and thought I have posted way more inflammatory stuff than the hidden post ... and I have had far more inflammatory stuff directed towards me. So I sat down and fired off a tongue in cheek OP (riffing on what I, and others, have been noticing) and posted it in the AA Group, as I know I've seen some REALLY flame worthy stuff posted in "protected groups."
I went to pour myself a cup of coffee ... and returned to find my account had been flagged for review.
While anyone can click on the "show post" link, and see what that was about ... I want to acknowledge the display of support. Thank you.
But ... if posting a question about a candidate for public office ... a question that has been the subject of numerous articles and OPs in mainstream media ... is considered hide worthy (even though, similar posts have been posted to DU, unmolested); and, if writing a post expressing a concern that a candidate is NOT speaking to me, as an African-American, in a way that is persuasive, and making a generalized mocking of the arguments posed by his supporters, that miss the entire point of my concern, are hide worthy (but the personalized and specific attacks in response ... hell ... the hiding jury's comments, go unmolested) ... then, perhaps I am in the wrong spot.
I'm going to take a break, take a breath and consider and, possibly, return.
Peace Family!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)People are being targeted.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Which ones?
NYC_SKP?
Woo Me With Science?
1SBM?
Others?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)How many of them were HRC supporters?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)And 1SBM got hidden posts for questioning Sanders.
You brought up two namrs that i wasnot talking about.
I can't speak to them.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)"People are being targeted" is a fact, but perhaps you need to see that others are included in that targeting besides 1SBM.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)no one is in the mood for this here.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Seriously, can you handle that?
The most I did was ask somebody to stop accusing others. Is that a disruption?
Number23
(24,544 posts)I am asking you AGAIN to stop participating in this forum.
You aren't asking questions. You are stirring the shit. And everyone here can see it.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)I find that charge rather offensive.
Was this post offensive?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=17198
Number23
(24,544 posts)because it's obvious that you are just being a pain.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)The nonsense arguments need to be taken to GD. This is not the group for that.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Have no idea why we've been getting so many "visitors" lately. Actually, I have some idea.
This forum has been here for over three years. We've built a core group of posters and any are welcome to participate as long as they don't start nothing. For two years, we had like three posters on block. That number's gone up considerably just in the last two months and I think it's indicative of how poisonous the site is now.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)here you are.. disrupting.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Do you have links to the questioning/offending posts? I am actually interested in reading them.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Both posts were not hide worthy. Silly, but not hide worthy.
Cha
(297,323 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)have been made, even replies by yourself. Yet 20 min. later you edit my post to make me look wrong.
*Your* group is the one who acts as if it is at war with other DUers, plotting against them in your little safe haven. The Bernie group gets negative posts shut down in there. Grow the fuck up already. And if you can't do that at least go look in the mirror.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=6967
Response to cui bono (Reply #132)
hrmjustin This message was self-deleted by its author.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Please do not come back to this thread. Take your issues with justin to PM, to GD or wherever.
But you are not going to bring this idiocy in here.
Cha
(297,323 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I am like Muhammad Ali without my Bundini Brown...
I will even be Bundini if you stay
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)chase you off, you are letting them win. Not that winning or losing in this context means a lot.
I understand that few of us have anything real invested in this anonymous crowd, and any worthwhile efforts might be better spent elsewhere. I've certainly felt that way enough times.
But, after investing all that time and energy here so far, it would be a shame to see you disappear.
randys1
(16,286 posts)in the way they were a point has to be made, somehow.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,742 posts)DU needs your voice and the place will be less is you leave.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)and I'm a Bernie supporter.
The second post was hilarious.
I'm glad you're back.
On closer reading and edit, I'm glad you're out of limbo. Please come back!
tooeyeten
(1,074 posts)OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Here's hoping you stay.
FWIW, I asked a five word question: "Who is on Team Sanders?" and some beast with a ballerina dancing on its back responded with "What is your POINT?".
Thank dog no one knows me from Adam, else I'd be in DUgatory for sure.
Hang tough, friend.
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)1StrongBlackMan.
We are just meme's to them.
I will miss you, I hope you will return.
Sheshe~
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Enjoy the summer - stay cool!
Hekate
(90,714 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)boston bean
(36,222 posts)and hope even more you will come back.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)You should stay!
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)about how much we like you. Please let us behave like normal middle class people and talk behind your back for a few minutes.
And then hurry back.
brer cat
(24,578 posts)But this place is downright crazy now, and anything can happen, as we saw with that totally bogus hide. You are loved and respected by many here, and we hope to see you back and telling it like it is.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)alert stalked. I don't care if this gets a hide,it's beyond obvious at this point.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)There are just a handful of freaks and weirdos, that have nothing better to do than cause trouble.
And they come from all spectrums. This type of statement unfortunately, is part of the wider problem going on here at DU at this time.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)And I'm not the only one who's noticed.
Cha
(297,323 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)HRC supporters and those who question Sanders are being targeted.
I think what happened to 1StrongBlackMan made that very clear.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)This forum has been here for over three YEARS and we're getting all of these recent "pop ins" from people who never felt the need to pop in before.
Please see yourselves out of this forum. No one is the mood for this and especially not now.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)helpful or wanted.
Please stop trying to waste our time. Just go.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)being offensive. I was told I could delete my post or apologize but I can't find the post or the Bernie group. I want to delete my post as it caused many complaints because it was found to be offensive. I just need help to find it. Thank you.
Cha
(297,323 posts)Too bad if there're those who don't want it talked about.
Warpy
(111,277 posts)when some word jumper or outrage troll has gotten lucky with a jury. They especially like to troll protected groups, not much protection in them. Maybe membership should be required to alert in a group. Maybe alerts should be tracked so the people who alert on every single word they think someone somewhere might be offended by can be identified and booted as disrupters, something really needs to be done.
I look forward to your return, anyway.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)And I am grateful for the presence of 1SBM on DU.
--imm
Spazito
(50,375 posts)I've taken a few for sure.
Enjoy your time away but I do hope you return before too long, I learn a lot from your posts and will miss them.
JI7
(89,252 posts)I bet those who alerted what you posted are those who regularly attack others .
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)The software does it. They left the flag on for the day though.
JI7
(89,252 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)I believe it's 12 hours, but I'm not sure.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)A break from the hypocrisy of some on here is as good thing. I just came back to post because of the insanity of what was done to you. I'm outta here for a while. I believe in you and a few more here.
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)I will miss you, heaven.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)sheshe2
(83,793 posts)I know that. One of 1Strongs points were, to paraphrase, "you are talking at me not to me." Yet they continued to put 1Strong in his place. Privilege.
Be well my friend, I hope to see you soon.
Mbrow
(1,090 posts)I hope you stay, the whole thing sounded like B.S to me. while I'm a big Bernie fan, I'm getting tired of the nonsense
that seems to be going on here. Most of the people in either camp are good people, it appears that we have some shit stirrers in DU who get their kicks from causing hate and discontent. Again while I hope Bernie wins, guess what? If Hillary gets the nod, she will get my support. Good Luck!
Cha
(297,323 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)I can't trust them think in all the people's best interests. At times some will come and make nice comments, then run to another forum and post GOP stuff or whatever just to be anti-HRC. She and Bernie are personal friends, she bankrolled him in the past. We should act as they do and work for the country.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Sometimes getting away for a bit is needed. That being said, I don't think anything you would post would be hide worthy- juries are screwy sometimes.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)and understand the need to take a break. Those were some wild hides. I fear it is the harbinger of more to come.
seaglass
(8,173 posts)Your voice is needed, I hope you'll come back.
Gothmog
(145,335 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)You have been nothing but patient and even-handed. I really wish the admins would take a serious stance on the way minorities are treated here.
You also stick up for feminists around here, which as a host of one our feminist groups, I really appreciate.
yardwork
(61,654 posts)Looks like trolls have been busy.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)yardwork
(61,654 posts)Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)I'm glad that you were released from "review" status, 1SBM.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,992 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)If something on here offends you, move along, life is not pretty. People are going to say things you don't either agree with or find offensive. I think motorcycles are offensive, as well as public smokers. Can I call in a jury to have them wiped off the street?
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)I read the post and saw nothing hide-worthy.
I will never understand what people gain from trolling protected groups just to find ways to be offended.
It has to be personal and that makes it petty. My view of a protected group is just that - it's a group for safe expression. If you don't want to be offended by what you might read in a protected group - don't click on the group. If you're trolling protected groups just to find something to alert on, you should be banned. If you troll protected groups just to stalk a certain poster in order to alert on them, you should be banned.
For that matter, those who stalk just to harass and alert should be banned.
Bad behavior should be alerted on, of course, but that's not what I see happening for the most part in protected groups. I've been on a few juries involving protected groups and you can tell when the alert is a case of someone reading posts just to find something, anything, to alert.
Again, I'm sorry you were the victim of this petty behavior. Don't take a break. It's what they want - and never, ever give them what they want.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Sounds reasonable to me.
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)brer cat
(24,578 posts)Stalking can be traced and they need to be gone. "Protected" groups are meaningless if there can't be free expression without fear of an alert by someone outside the group.
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)Got a hide in the Hillary Group. People are indeed being targeted here, brer cat.
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)Instead of listening to you and trying to find out why Bernie Sanders does not speak to you as a black man, they shamefully attacked you. They are not doing their candidate any favors. They should have wanted to hear you out, not insult you and hide your post. How can they help Bernie improve his appeal to African Americans if they silence African Americans?
Cha
(297,323 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Exactly.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)But, yes, excellent.
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)Thank you.
yardwork
(61,654 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)compounding the insult by saying the OP "pretends" to be black.
A jury likewise declined to hide that post.
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Just awful. I commented and alerted, but I wasn't the first. It had come back 2-5.
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)And thanks for your posts in general, BainsBane. I always enjoy them.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)That's very kind of you to say.
Number23
(24,544 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)I will PM links.
longship
(40,416 posts)Don't let the fools here drive you away. I know that you are likely upset, but there are many here who will miss your learned and rational posts.
Cha
(297,323 posts)about this or my post will get hidden. And, I just got a hide the other night that was completely bogus but this wouldn't be.
I can imagine how you must feel.. not even having a safe place to post your concerns about a candidate for public office in the AA Group. Just want to say I will miss your posts, 1StrongBlackMan. I wish you and your family Peace, too.
BumRushDaShow
(129,128 posts)(hope your wife don't mind. )
Good triumphs over evil. I have watched many virulent stalkers flame-out. It's only a matter of time.
Number23
(24,544 posts)And Lord knows she's done and said some questionably racist crap which is why none of us raise much of a fuss when it happens.
And yet, I have never seen ONE of the people screaming about your post where you questioned BS's commitment to black issues complaining that Hillary gets called a "racist".
The BULLSHIT and the hypocrisy are too much. As a black man, as an AMERICAN apparently daring to even question what BS would do is too much for the fragile and delicate fee fees of his supporters. This place has jumped the shark and gone off the deep end for years but this just too much.
I don't blame you for taking a break. I honestly don't want you to come back. Not because you are not loved and your voice is not appreciated. But because this place has been taken over so fully and so completely by libertarians that don't give a SHIT about us that it's honestly not worth the trouble. They are NEVER going to give a damn and they've made that clear and have completely taken over this board. So why bother?
Enjoy your break. Don't come back here. Send me a PM and I'll meet you somewhere else.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)I think it's a shame to basically be forced to give in to them and let them have their way on this place even more. Both you and 1SBM always have made excellent points when battling them here. But on the other hand, I understand 100% why a person might want to take a hiatus from here (temporarily or permanently). When I first found DU about 3 years ago, I never would've expected the RW/libertarian troll problem to be this intense. I was naive and thought the TOS would be more strictly enforced, and that I wouldn't see people (and a certain president) getting name-called. I came here to get away from them on places like YouTube and Yahoo! They're like ants; they infest and takeover everywhere they go online.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)I bet you'll read this and say, "who is that?" , but I'm sure there are many like me who aren't that well known who really love your posts. You have many more people who support you than you know.
It's sad to see intelligent, reasonable posters leave, while the disruptive, crazy ones stay.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)What a massively stupid jury decision.
mcar
(42,334 posts)Voted to not hide.
I am very concerned with what is going on here lately. It really seems like good DUers are being targeted.
I like your posts and hope you stay around and stay diligent.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Those hides were ridiculous. They were great posts. I've really appreciated interacting with you 1StrongBlackMan. I wish you and your family and loved ones all the best. If you do come back I and many others will be delighted to keep talking with you. Take care my friend.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)The stalking that goes on around here is alarming...and fucking annoying.
Stryder
(450 posts)I've enjoyed any discussion you've been a part of.
But I do tend to keep my head down.
Don't let my low posts# fool you.
I've been reading DU since before Kerry.
Guess that makes me a "lurker."
But I'm a much better listener than I
am a talker.
Besides someone always seems to
articulate my thoughts much better than I can.
(I generally read the responses before I respond.)
Crap, I'm rambling. See what I mean.
Anyway, hope to hear more from you soon.
Much peace to you. And I'm glad to see, much support.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)I have seen, and heard, as you have, enough hate and bigotry and feigned offense, to last a life time....from the righties..
Yes, I am new to commenting, but I have been reading DU for years...everyone is so informed and smart and passionate on many subjects..
When you bring an article to DU it makes me want to know more - so I research - and research..you have no idea how much research just to be able to comment intelligently..I have learned so much..I find my comment is like # 50-100 so many times - like a sally come lately - yea - sometimes I get snarky - but not AT any poster..just the subject matter..
When we as DEMS or progressives start to dissolve into petty bickering rather than take the challenge and DEBATE the issue we divide in our mission...just like the PUMAs of yesterday...that was not nice!
If you know who is launching someone on the site - as I am witnessing someone did to a very liked member of DU - then a strong message needs to be sent to the admins..as some of you have done....if you know who it is then present your case to DU admin just as you have done here...and on the other thread concerning 1SBM..
We CANNOT be divided - there is too much at stake....my best to all!
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)This IS a site for adults, correct?
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Sometimes it gets pretty thick around here...
But sometimes, when this place gets on me, I retreat back here to our group, or C&B (depending on my mood), and just chill for a bit. I don't post in our group as often as I should, but I prefer to just read and know that there are those who can feel me and can relate. It's a comforting, common brother and sisterhood that we share.
Sure there are those posters that make DU suck at times... You know who I'm taking about; Name Removed, or the AverageJoe or his sock puppets that pop in from time to time.
But I want you to know that your voice, is always one that can center my thoughts. I always enjoy reading your posts. They remind me what we are all here for.
If you need a break, then take one. We will wait for your return. If you need to talk, send me a PM and I'll give you my number. But don't let this place get you down.
Mister Ed
(5,940 posts)KauaiK
(544 posts)1OldWhiteWoman
Stellar
(5,644 posts)It was due to my ignorance in politics. I only joined this site because it reminded me of my late husband and he was deep into it. I wanted to apologize but, oh well....water under the bridge now.
mountain grammy
(26,626 posts)I think your voice is needed in this board.
Whatever your decision, I wish you well.
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)sheshe2
(83,793 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)And when Obama said Bucket, that's what he meant.
s-cubed
(1,385 posts)AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)Peace
eridani
(51,907 posts)donnasgirl
(656 posts)Please do not leave.
freebrew
(1,917 posts)your voice adds a lot to the many discussions here.
Not sure who the disrupters really are here, there seem to be many.
It's discouraging.
I say: ignore them and type on. They're not real.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)Alert stalking sucks, and anyone who has raised this issue is summarily dismissed. There have to be some protections for those of us who don't worship at the altar of St. Bernard. We are literally in the minority here, and if you're a Hillary supporter, it's a double whammy.
Enjoy your summer, and come back reinvigorated.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)I think Sanders is our only hope, but I've been the object of his supporters crude and adolescent strategies myself, and came to the conclusion that among his supporters are his biggest liabilities. I have my doubts that they will get out of the way so he can win, but we will see.
So you may want to stay - sure would hate to think they ran you off and cost him an election too.
The Polack MSgt
(13,190 posts)Just joined the other day, but I know your handle and respect your opinions, as well as the clarity you show in writing them.
I have no deep thoughts to offer, just want to wish you well.
Peace
randys1
(16,286 posts)viciously attacked because she might miss a cabinet meeting and was concerned about missing it.
Yes, that is what I read, here, on DU.
I hope the Democratic Party isnt looking at DU for ANY help in the manner of support, cuz those who support the party and it's candidate are BADLY out numbered by some other group.
kath
(10,565 posts)YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)And have turned it into an excuse to viciously beat up on and troll Democratic politicians AND Democratic voters- especially our first black President and potentially our first woman in the White House, and their supporters ( many of whom are women and minorities).
They do Bernie Sanders NO favors by acting this way. They should be ashamed of themselves. They know who they are.
Sorry for the negative, hostile atmosphere here 1SBM. I wish you well.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Believe me.
Cha
(297,323 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
betsuni
(25,544 posts)I saw a comment somewhere about the members of the Angry White Band and wrote it down: "Their version of empathy is to put yourself in the position of the Other as if the Other were a giant asshole." A giant asshole and a liar.
It's such a shame that every time I think about Bernie Sanders I get a sour feeling, and that's only because of the appalling behavior of those people here. I have to remind myself that it has nothing to do with Bernie, they're a weird cult of reality-assassins living in personal mountain caves hyped up on some sort of group hysteria.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Hello my friend. Hope you're enjoying a good day.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)onpatrol98
(1,989 posts)Stay Strong!