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heaven05

(18,124 posts)
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 10:32 AM Jul 2015

Sandra Bland

Last edited Fri Jul 17, 2015, 09:23 PM - Edit history (6)

another "suicide" at the hands of racist police. Evidently, after driving from Illinois to Texas, for a new job at her alma mater, Prairie View A&M. Maybe she was tired from the drive, but she made a common mistake, improper signaling. Some officer of the law stops her for that infraction, and after that it seems she ended up on the ground, with her head slammed into the ground and a knee in her back for being "combative".

After spending a night in their jail, she's found dead, by a female guard, by "self inflicted hanging", prosecutor Mathis, a known racist pig, already made that determination, in her jail cell, DEAD. The spin of the privileged has started on other sites, she was not compliant enough to the new massa, she should have not been screaming about her rights and their brutal treatment of her to the new massa, ect, ect ect ad nauseam.

Corruption and white privilege will protect these cops, this town, because who can prove she didn't hang herself. The cameras won't show a damn thing, some kind of glitch or hell, they were off at the time, for maintenance ect, ect ect ad nauseam.

When will the names stop being added to the list since Trayvon Martin? When will the privileged here and in this nation start speaking up about this problem of racial injustice? Of racist brutality and viciousness against defenseless and unarmed women, children and men of color? WHEN WILL THE EXCUSES STOP!!!!!! DAMMIT!!!!!!!

Will the Justice Department enter this one with forceful determination and end up saying, "no proof of civil rights violations(s)"? This continuing behavior by racist people with guns and badges is becoming untenable because it is domestic terrorism.

for information on Sandra Bland: www.facebook.com/pvamu--petition:www.change.org-petition to dept of justice to take over investigation into the murder of Sandra Bland from the waller county texas police.


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Sandra Bland (Original Post) heaven05 Jul 2015 OP
Texas sheriff involved in the death of Sandra Bland fired from previous post for racism BklnDem75 Jul 2015 #1
figures heaven05 Jul 2015 #2
Bust their unions libodem Jul 2015 #3
racist pig 'sopranoes' heaven05 Jul 2015 #4
There needs to be an independent autopsy. Was cause of death hanging or a brain injury? lostnfound Jul 2015 #5
I am "heartsick" also heaven05 Jul 2015 #8
"Fake suicide" was my initial reaction. SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #10
The story is she hung herself with a plastic trash bag JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #39
As long as the autopsy is done by an independent body Chemisse Jul 2015 #28
Imagine a Black police dept and cop killing white prisoners left and right, or out on the randys1 Jul 2015 #6
yeah, tread truthfully heaven05 Jul 2015 #7
+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #42
The Trayvon incident libodem Jul 2015 #11
Count me in the "sick" group heaven05 Jul 2015 #12
The jury pool libodem Jul 2015 #13
The coroner in Eric Garner's case ruled it a homicide. Number23 Jul 2015 #15
Absolutely libodem Jul 2015 #16
Not me heaven05 Jul 2015 #30
It was the Trayvon incident that woke me up (as a white person) to the condoned killings of blacks. Chemisse Jul 2015 #31
a sickened k and r niyad Jul 2015 #9
I read the stories about her yesterday, put my head down and bawled. I couldn't even respond in any Number23 Jul 2015 #14
yes heaven05 Jul 2015 #17
THe anger is growing, I am hearing it on my radio shows. randys1 Jul 2015 #18
They've gotten away with it for 400 years. I just posted a link to a WashPost article that said that Number23 Jul 2015 #19
That 30% is the GOP and Teaparty. Overt racists. They actually feel superior and it bothers randys1 Jul 2015 #21
That 30% is still the same size as the entire AA population. We can't do this by ourselves. Number23 Jul 2015 #22
No, you can't. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #24
... Number23 Jul 2015 #25
Backatcha sheshe2 Jul 2015 #35
People are starting to galvanize heaven05 Jul 2015 #29
BlackLivesMatter has taken hold in so many different countries. If it can lead to more structured Number23 Jul 2015 #33
+1000 heaven05 Jul 2015 #34
got to keep those neighborhoods heaven05 Jul 2015 #32
We might have a win here JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #45
God dammit! sheshe2 Jul 2015 #20
It will not blow over this time heaven05 Jul 2015 #23
No, I don't think it will blow over this time. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #36
yeah I read that earlier heaven05 Jul 2015 #37
So Sandra Bland was assassinated. underthematrix Jul 2015 #26
Is that a question or statement? heaven05 Jul 2015 #27
Supposedly he was blocked from AA group in the past JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #41
okay, understood heaven05 Jul 2015 #43
I'm kicking it up! JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #38
Yep, sure as repubthugs are heaven05 Jul 2015 #40
KnR! n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #44
Seabeyond sent me this link to a Facebook page for Sandra Number23 Jul 2015 #46
thanks heaven05 Jul 2015 #49
It seems like we're hearing about a new incident every 3-4 weeks... Blue_Tires Jul 2015 #47
You would think some police chief somewhere might be saying JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #48

BklnDem75

(2,918 posts)
1. Texas sheriff involved in the death of Sandra Bland fired from previous post for racism
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:16 AM
Jul 2015

Sandra Bland died in police custody this past Monday. Visiting Texas from Chicago to interview for a college job at her alma mater of Prairie View A&M, she was pulled over for a routine traffic violation (failure to use her turn signal). Everything from that point forward screams racism and foul play, including her death in the Waller County jail Monday.

The first red flag is that Bland was officially arrested on Friday for assaulting a police officer. What we see from a bystander video is her telling the officers she is in pain and cannot hear after her head was slammed on the ground by the male arresting officer. The video is below.

We have now learned that Waller County Sheriff Glenn Smith, who made the first public comments about Bland's in-custody death, was suspended for documented cases of racism when he was chief of police in Hempstead, Texas, in 2007. After serving his suspension, more complaints of racism came in, and Smith was actually fired as chief of police in Hempstead


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/16/1402770/-Texas-Sheriff-involved-in-the-death-of-Sandra-Bland-fired-from-previous-post-for-racism


Murdered in prison by racists.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
2. figures
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:24 AM
Jul 2015

she according to my understanding has already gained a position which she would have started today. KOS has that detail wrong. I think. Her parents and friends say she was going there to start a new life and career. But nonetheless, moot point, she's been murdered by some more racists of this nation, this time in Texas, one of the neo-confederate states of the now 'new' south full of new white massas. I truly do hope people get really angry at this racist abomination of amerikkkan justice....

libodem

(19,288 posts)
3. Bust their unions
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:24 AM
Jul 2015

It's a protection racket for a bunch of thugs. I'll bet anyone dollars to donuts that the union dictates that they don't just wound their victims but kill them dead in order not to be on the hook for a lifetime of care as nd injury lawsuits. I think it's cheaper for the city to pay out wrongful death lawsuits in the millions than lifetime nursing home debt.

These beatings and shootings are like gangland atrocities. It's just like the Sopranos.

Serve and Protect? Don't think so. Self protecting and Self Serving and offering the administration of Gangland Security.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
4. racist pig 'sopranoes'
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:30 AM
Jul 2015

authorized badge wearing, gun toting representative of the neo-confederate new south state of Texas. Only the Justice Department can gather enough 'evidence' to break the power of these unions that protect these racist and I truly don't believe, even with an AA AG and POTUS, that they, the underlings of the AG, would pursue this with any vigor. They haven't since Trayvon Martin.

lostnfound

(16,192 posts)
5. There needs to be an independent autopsy. Was cause of death hanging or a brain injury?
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:57 AM
Jul 2015

I find it plausible that she died in custody from the head trauma -- or went unconscious -- and they faked the suicide.

I wish there was an Innocence Project type of organization that would take on investigation of. these cases. Waller County isn't releasing the body yet, I believe.

I am heartsick about this case (and about hundreds of others). And was that stupid sheriff was quoted on TV claiming that he is not a racist "because black lives matter"? If that was him.. I take it as direct disgusting sarcasm.

On edit: yes, it was him! God he is disgusting. I don't believe his sincerity in this comment whatsoever; what a complete jerk:

At Thursday's press conference, Smith addressed criticism he weathered in 2007 of racist behavior, calling censures he received "just politics," and noting two of the councilmen who called for his suspension were later imprisoned on federal bribery charges."Black lives matter to Glenn Smith," he said. "I can assure you of that."
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
8. I am "heartsick" also
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:10 PM
Jul 2015

my rage is also in there. Pure unadulterated rage. She does not deserve to be dead. No excuse from these neo-confedrates and them laughing and guffawing right now at the dead...... .....! Something has got to give.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
10. "Fake suicide" was my initial reaction.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 02:25 PM
Jul 2015

Fake to cover up death from another cause, I mean - of course it was fake.

If that's what happened, how stupid could they be? Oh wait.....

JustAnotherGen

(31,924 posts)
39. The story is she hung herself with a plastic trash bag
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 11:18 AM
Jul 2015

What the fuck is wrong with America when anyone would believe such utter bullshit!?!?

Chemisse

(30,817 posts)
28. As long as the autopsy is done by an independent body
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 08:36 PM
Jul 2015

The cause of death should be very clear.

Sorry, racist cops, the days are gone when you can rig a suicide to cover up a murder and nobody will question it.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
6. Imagine a Black police dept and cop killing white prisoners left and right, or out on the
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 11:58 AM
Jul 2015

street as in Ferguson and Garner and the kid with the toy gun etc.

Etc

Why etc? Because there are SO many.

Imagine a case where it is obvious a Black cop who is known to HATE white people, and his prisoner is found dead, uh huh.


Shit.


The flags and gunz would come out in full force from everywhere.

It is ACCEPTABLE in the USA to kill non white people ....I was gonna add something to that but that is all I need to say.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
7. yeah, tread truthfully
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 12:06 PM
Jul 2015

as you do always, but carefully. Ohhh! So much I would like to say, but I refrain just because I won't give the haters on here their excuse.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
11. The Trayvon incident
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 04:34 PM
Jul 2015

Broke my heart. And it has just gotten worse. Zimmerman should not have been treated like a hero. He should have gone to prison for cold-blooded murder.

Appropriate punishment might have made these copycat murders less apt to happen.

But noooo the purpetrators walk away because of the victim's skin color.

The State Department needs yo bust those thug unions. These assholes should be right to work like the rest of us. Sick of their privileged existence.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
12. Count me in the "sick" group
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 04:39 PM
Jul 2015
As long as these people like this can manuver and spin and twist like the snakes they are, nothing will be done. The legal system, with the current mindset of a lot of americans, makes an impartial jury impossible. Equality for all citizens is still a long in the future dream.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
13. The jury pool
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 05:05 PM
Jul 2015

Is another manipulation that is abhorrent. I'm a social justice freak and the tampering that goes on during jury selection seems like the game is rigged. Not fair

Number23

(24,544 posts)
15. The coroner in Eric Garner's case ruled it a homicide.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 06:46 PM
Jul 2015

There was fucking VIDEO of the cops basically sitting on this man with his head in a choke hold and him screaming "I can't breathe." And the jury STILL DID NOTHING.

Zimmerman was told by the 911 operator to stop chasing Trayvon through his father's neighborhood. He didn't. The jury STILL DID NOTHING.

John Crawford was in Walmart talking on his phone while holding a fake gun. Not brandishing the gun, HOLDING it. Cops came in and killed him and the jury DID NOTHING.

None of these brothers were armed. None of them were committing crimes. But yet, Dylan Roof and that asshole that shot up that movie theater are alive and well, despite having KILLED SEVERAL PEOPLE.

I share heaven's rage and have a bunch of my own to add to it as well.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
16. Absolutely
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 06:58 PM
Jul 2015

Notice on the Roof situation nobody's calling it KKK Terrorism. I think the KKK is a heartbeat's difference between them and The John Birtch Society.
You know it was the Koch bros father who helped invent the Birtchers. They believe they are better than everyone because of their enormous wealth and their White Heritage. Their effing pedigree makes them think we are shit. And by that I mean all of the lower classes. We are disposable fodders of war.

Chemisse

(30,817 posts)
31. It was the Trayvon incident that woke me up (as a white person) to the condoned killings of blacks.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 08:49 PM
Jul 2015

Although there was the shooting of the groom of a wedding in Brooklyn (I think) that had me thinking something was seriously amiss.

And then this past year there has been one after the other, complete with heart-wrenching video footage, that absolutely hammered this in. I am embarrassed that I was so naive prior to all this, as to think that if a cop killed a suspect, it was likely warranted.

This latest killing just makes me so sad.

The officer who is on desk duty now is called a 'public safety officer.' What a misnomer. This girl would have been safer being driven around by a drunk driver than in the hands of these cops.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
14. I read the stories about her yesterday, put my head down and bawled. I couldn't even respond in any
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 06:39 PM
Jul 2015

of the threads about her. On her first fucking day of work.

Only in America could a black woman DIE because of an illegal lane change.

When will the privileged here and in this nation start speaking up about this problem of racial injustice? Of racist brutality and viciousness against defenseless and unarmed women, children and men of color? WHEN WILL THE EXCUSES STOP!!!!!! DAMMIT!!!!!!!

Why would they do that when they can TELL us what is or should be important to us or ignore it altogether???

randys1

(16,286 posts)
18. THe anger is growing, I am hearing it on my radio shows.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:42 PM
Jul 2015

The AfAm community has shown patience unlike any in history.

One of two things must happen and now, stop the violence against the Black community or expect blow-back.

It cant go on and on and on, it just cant.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
19. They've gotten away with it for 400 years. I just posted a link to a WashPost article that said that
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:44 PM
Jul 2015

damn near 30% of white people are okay with housing discrimination against blacks in 2015.

If the larger community doesn't care, doesn't do anything about it or hell, actually ENCOURAGES this crap, then nothing is ever going to change.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
21. That 30% is the GOP and Teaparty. Overt racists. They actually feel superior and it bothers
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:48 PM
Jul 2015

them if they see someone say the truth about what they really think.

Having been around them for so long I know how they think.

sheshe2

(83,937 posts)
24. No, you can't.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 08:19 PM
Jul 2015
That 30% is still the same size as the entire AA population. We can't do this by ourselves.


Nor should you be expected to, Number23.
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
29. People are starting to galvanize
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 08:42 PM
Jul 2015

no knees where the apologists expect us, asking some entity to bring justice. I say off the knees. Stand up! Start fighting back.We don't have to take this treatment. Who does the new massa/missy think is afraid of him/her? Fear is just there to be defeated. I learned that in Vietnam. Scared sometimes, never fearful.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
33. BlackLivesMatter has taken hold in so many different countries. If it can lead to more structured
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 08:53 PM
Jul 2015

and concrete action, it will be exactly what OWS couldn't.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
32. got to keep those neighborhoods
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 08:49 PM
Jul 2015

pure and white, you know. Can't have it any other way, that's just how it is with that 30% and the quiet minority that pushes that number up and up and up.....it's getting to the point, I just can't stand this shit anymore.

JustAnotherGen

(31,924 posts)
45. We might have a win here
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 11:48 AM
Jul 2015

From what I understand - she was as clean as a whistle.

So no comments will be coming from the
Naturally inclined to be sick towards black people
Better 2 Go
Some random number
Devotee of Churchill whining about white privilege

See how they run

sheshe2

(83,937 posts)
20. God dammit!
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:45 PM
Jul 2015

It just never stops. One more life stolen, because of the racist hate that surrounds this country.

I am going to the link to sign the petition.

I am so very sorry, heaven.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
23. It will not blow over this time
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 08:15 PM
Jul 2015

will not be marginalized, diminished or excused away. 78,000+ have signed that petition so far. People are slowing starting to bubble in this "melting pot" methinks. Definitely have some hot spots in this kettle of woe. It is time to start fighting back. Locally, this Sunday, I'm going to see how many in the Bernie group here show concern or even know about this travesty of american policing. Texas. Goddammit again!!!!!!!!!! Then the HRC group.

sheshe2

(83,937 posts)
36. No, I don't think it will blow over this time.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 09:03 PM
Jul 2015
Mathis, the prosecutor who is investigating the case, has a troubling history that suggests bias against blacks, reported blogger Shaun King of Daily Kos.

Last year, the Rev. Walter Pendleton asked Mathis to provide documentation on prosecution rates by ethnicity in Waller County.

Pendleton said the prosecutor responded to his public request with a string of abusive texts, telling the pastor he was “too stupid” to understand the term “selective prosecution” and apparently threatening to send law enforcement after his critic.

“My hounds ain’t even started yet dumb ass,” Mathis wrote. “Keep talking. When I talk people will listen. Keep talking and I will sue your ass for slander. It works both ways. ‘Dr.’ Take your fake Dr. Ass and jump off a high cliff.”


More http://3chicspolitico.com/2015/07/17/waller-county-prosecutor-elton-mathis-has-history-of-racial-bias/
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
37. yeah I read that earlier
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 09:12 PM
Jul 2015

I hope the justice dept can do something with this prosecutor and this murder. That's all I got in the hope area. Otherwise, I know where I stand in this country with a legion of "night riders" out there. And that's fine with me. I want this shit on front street, can be dealt with efficiently and effectively. I can't wait for sunday and the bernie group here. There are a couple that actually looked scared when I went the last time. I didn't cause any problem, I just listened to them and offered a couple of suggestions on how to grow the group. We'll see. O'Malley seems to be a choice worth looking at? It's just I really don't know who I can trust to keep me out of the cattle cars but me.

JustAnotherGen

(31,924 posts)
41. Supposedly he was blocked from AA group in the past
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 11:36 AM
Jul 2015

Expect a response that will get him blocked again.

JustAnotherGen

(31,924 posts)
38. I'm kicking it up!
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 11:16 AM
Jul 2015

I can sea beyond the bullshit in this story - they murdered her sure as Republicans are ass wipes.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
49. thanks
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 09:24 AM
Jul 2015

I remain speechless. I must at this time. I'll get banned. I am engaging with two clowns that are whining about the disruption of the speakers at that event. "Be nice". "Be civil". "Be patient" I say BS. 250 years of that counsel and well....we know where it got Sandra Bland..et al.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
47. It seems like we're hearing about a new incident every 3-4 weeks...
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 10:41 PM
Jul 2015

I can't keep them straight in my head anymore...

JustAnotherGen

(31,924 posts)
48. You would think some police chief somewhere might be saying
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 06:57 AM
Jul 2015

Folks - right about now we have GOT TO BE beyond reproach!

At this point - these people should be fired just for being stupid.

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