Liza for the Win! Economic Progress is More Effective Than Protests Says Joel Kotkin

[sheshe2]

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One question for Joel: If BLACK Americans had economic progress, would they even need to protest and declare BLACK LIVES MATTER. Dismissed!

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3 Chics commenter, Liza for the MOTHERFUCKING WIN! Yes, I said it.

Liza says:
August 30, 2015 at 11:44 am

This entire article written by white guy Joel Kotkin, who I have never heard of before this, is nothing but a thinly veiled, white racist perspective on the black experience in America apparently inspired by TNC’s new book as well as the author’s disdain for President Obama and, to a lesser extent, Eric Holder.

Oh, yes, it is so easy to blather about “economic progress” as the solution to all that ails this country because “the American Dream” is alive and well and what we should always be striving for. We should always be looking to the future because that is what Americans do, we move on no matter what, right? The dark, ugly, murderous part of the history of this country should be glossed over and constantly revised if not forgotten because there is always another economic opportunity out there for those who have the guts to go for it, right? And those who succeed are not looking behind them in the rear view mirror, they are looking ahead, always ahead.

And so goes the standard, run of the mill, unoriginal, and played out WHITE DISMISSAL of all race related problems that have festered in this country for hundreds of years. That is all this article is really about. A different author, but the same tired argument full of generalizations, dismissals, and omissions.

If given the opportunity, I would be compelled to ask the author just one question. Mr. Kotkin, assuming we could create more economic opportunities for minorities, how would Oscar Grant, Trayvon Martin, Jordan Davis, Darius Simmons, Michael Brown, Freddie Gray, Tamir Rice, Sandra Bland, and all of the other young, black people who have been murdered by racists or unjustly killed or maimed by police benefit from this robust economic growth that you blather about while dismissing the very real life and death issues that people of color face every single day that they try to live in this country?

http://3chicspolitico.com/2015/08/30/liza-for-the-win-economic-progress-is-more-effective-than-protests-says-joel-kotkin/

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Thank you Liza and 3chicspolitico.

[Starry Messenger]

1. What is up with the Daily Beast?

Half the time their content is totally awful. Do they accept pay for publication? wtf did I just read?

"Of course, there is no clear pattern of such discrimination by police against Asians, and no way to distinguish the experiences of African immigrants from other blacks in terms of crime. Yet each group each is physically distinct, and they have not allowed this fact to prevent their ascendency in American society. This is not to say that serious changes in policing are not necessary—there certainly are—but that the focus of ethnic uplift needs to be focused not on what “they” do to you, but what you can manage to accomplish yourself despite their depredations."

The old canard that African-Americans are just like immigrants. Uh no, slave ships were not transports for people willing to come here. The word you are looking for is kidnapping. The history of social relations all created after those terrible acts is totally unlike immigration. Even if conditions in your home country were awful, you still got a choice to come here and your family knew where you were going.

[ismnotwasm]

3. I despise that bullshit from the depth of my soul

It's disingenuous racist claptrap--and it pisses me off like few things do.

[sheshe2]

4. Gawd dammit! The old canard.

The old canard that African-Americans are just like immigrants. Uh no, slave ships were not transports for people willing to come here. The word you are looking for is kidnapping. The history of social relations all created after those terrible acts is totally unlike immigration. Even if conditions in your home country were awful, you still got a choice to come here and your family knew where you were going.

[lovemydog]

2. I emailed The Daily Beast.

To: [e-mail]
Subject: Reply to August 30 article
Dear Sir or Madam,
The commentary by Joel Kotkin http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/30/economic-progress-is-more-effective-than-protests.html
while perhaps well-meaning is grossly misinformed, particularly on the issue of protests as a means of furthering civil rights. I suggest you publish a rebuttal or commentary, perhaps written by someone from the BlackLivesMatter movement or these authors: http://3chicspolitico.com/2015/08/30/liza-for-the-win-economic-progress-is-more-effective-than-protests-says-joel-kotkin/
Please forward this email to the appropriate editors at the Daily Beast. Thank you for your consideration of this important topic, which greatly benefits from extended commentary and continuing dialogue.

Thanks for sharing this sheshe2.

Anyone feel free to copy.

[sheshe2]

5. Hey you.

Thanks for the link.

I will email tomorrow....gotta sleep.

I love you too.

[Starry Messenger]

6. Good idea and great letter!

Marking to remind myself later.

[Number23]

7. You are so freaking awesome.