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Related: About this forum"Donald Trump is White Man's last stand"
The author points out that Trump has greater support than the polls show. An interesting anti-Trump viewpoint from a conservative.
Bradley, youll recall, was former Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley, an African-American who ran unsuccessfully for California governor in 1982 and 1986. His 1982 defeat surprised pollsters who had predicted an easy win based on polling. Apparently, many people were fearful of being considered racist and falsely said they were going to vote for him.
Now we have people not saying theyll vote for Trump lest the telephone surveyor think theyre out of their minds. But the question remains: Why do people like Trump even knowing they probably shouldnt? Morning Consults revelations got me thinking and, by Jove, I think Ive got it: Donald Trump is White Mans last stand.
Hold your donkeys. This doesnt mean that Trump supporters are racist, xenophobic, nativist, anti-immigrant or ignorant. It isnt only that our nations approach to immigration defies law and logic or even that whites will soon become a minority, though this is no small thing in the identity equation. Nor, finally, is it because Trump is the precise opposite of Barack Obama, though this surely helps.
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Based on my research and observations in writing Save the Males, conservative white guys arent so much trying to hold on to power and privilege as much as theyre trying to find their footing in a culture they feel devalues and disrespects them. Theyre tired of hearing that theyre the source of all problems. Theyre sick of being the single demographic about which one can say anything at all and suffer only the annoyance of deafening applause.
Into this world gone awry drops Trump, the rich and powerful Wizard of Fifth Avenue, the deal-making champ with plush planes, a Palm Beach palace and a pin-up girl for a wife. His politically incorrect shtick may often be pure meanness masquerading as truth, but to those whove watched the country of their childhood reshaped into something unfamiliar, it sounds like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir singing Handels Messiah.
except most of these yahoos have never heard of Handels Messiah.
This is from the fairly moderate conservative columnist Kathleen Parker.
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/opinion/column/kathleen-parker-donald-trump-is-white-man-s-last-stand/article_df8a7bd3-babc-50ee-9100-831f85b662b0.html
The Polack MSgt
(13,190 posts)We like being the default positve value. Having to figure out a reasonable alternative way to act in society is hard.
Also, blacks, hispanics and liberals are lazy dangerous buttheads.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)We (most of we) don't like that.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)(Even though I'm only half of it, being white but female.)
I'll tell you something that makes a person my age happy, even though I don't like mega-corporations - the difference between TV ads when I was young and now when I am old. Diversity-wise, I mean.
Number23
(24,544 posts)But based on the snip that you posted, my answer is immediately... DUH!
kwassa
(23,340 posts)I originally read it in the print edition of the Washington Post . It is syndicated.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)First, she says:
Then, she says:
If one's buried feelings are racist, xenophobic, nativist, anti-immigrant or ignorant; then, that person is racist, xenophobic, nativist, anti-immigrant or ignorant, though they just might not act on those feelings.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)You are right.
I just found it fascinating that a conservative columnist calls Trump out for what he is. Parker was also the first conservative columnist to call Palin an idiot, the day after the Couric interview.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I didn't want to go in to the flaw in the Morning Consult's thinking, regarding the more truthfulness of online respondents ... It is just as likely that those self-selecting online participants have a certain disposition, not found in the general population.
I suspect it will be years before online polling can be trusted, as too much of the general population is not participating online.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)A POC has his hands on the 'button' and it's driving some people to fascism, more deeply violent racism and just sheer stupidity. I get it now and it's nothing that has, Since 2008, surprised me. This society will remain schizophrenic and hypocritical till the end precisely because a lot of white males can't handle their racial fears. They sterotype and degrade others not in their 'club' so as too hold on to the perception that they still are in control. Of everyone on this ducking planet.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)But we've had these discussions before. Happy Belated Christmas. Hope you are well.
I for one always appreciate your candor and honesty.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)the same to you and yours...this holiday season. Yeah and the conversation(s) coming up.....I just can't wait.. Have a safe New Year.
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)Nope, I don't believe for a second that they're trying to find a footing, a way forward to normalize the inequalities for so many groups of people, let alone save the planet. Their problem is that they have to hear it. They cannot run away from it. They have no excuse, absolutely no way to reason their way out of it, and the fact that they cannot hold on to power and privilege AND get respect is compounding their insanity.
The ONLY respect for them that can come from a system of supremacy - created from the lowest depths of consciousness - is to watch our language, hide our feelings and fear them.
QuebecYank
(147 posts)It could really get ugly. Even if Trump wins, I see America turning into something like the 1950s.
Innocent Muslims (as well as their businesses/mosques) are being attacked and the media ignores it. I expect that from Fox News, but even the so-called respectable news outlets are ignoring it to. Disgusting!
It's like I'm seeing a trainwreck in slow motion and not having any way to get everyone else to take the oncoming diaster seriously.