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M0rpheus

(885 posts)
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 10:37 PM Jul 2013

Gawker: Video of Violent, Rioting Surfers Shows White Culture of Lawlessness

Oh lawd! The article I would have loved to have written, If I were good at this writing thing...

As I said, I know a lot of whites don't want to hear this kind of tough talk. But as an American of color who considers himself an ally to the white community, I'm just tired of seeing young, belligerent white people disgrace themselves year after year at surfing events, horse racing infields, and Ivy League campuses. Whites in America have been out from under their European ancestors' boot heels for centuries; California specifically outlawed preferences for nonwhites in state hiring and education nearly two decades ago. So being "oppressed" is no longer an excuse for behavior like this. How long must we wait for the white community to get its act together?


http://gawker.com/video-of-violent-rioting-surfers-shows-white-culture-o-954939719

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Gawker: Video of Violent, Rioting Surfers Shows White Culture of Lawlessness (Original Post) M0rpheus Jul 2013 OP
Perfect! Scuba Jul 2013 #1
alcohol nt msongs Jul 2013 #2
Maybe … 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #9
Oh my God. BEST BLOG POST EVER!!! Number23 Jul 2013 #3
When I was in High School it was Surfers and Greasers AnotherDreamWeaver Jul 2013 #4
Oh lord! JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #5
The comments are priceless! NOLALady Jul 2013 #6
excellent heaven05 Jul 2013 #7
Something must be done about this! HoosierRadical Jul 2013 #8
Looks like they've found it in GD. M0rpheus Jul 2013 #10
It's a fantastic write up rpannier Jul 2013 #11
I thought this was a very interesting comment. kwassa Jul 2013 #12
Very true JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #13
Whenever I see a post justifying NOLALady Aug 2013 #14
I can answer solve that puzzle in one word ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #16
Of Course! NOLALady Aug 2013 #17
I hope you noticed ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #18
And property ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #15
There are a lot of skinheads in Anaheim. I know all about the problems down there. JRLeft Aug 2013 #19
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
1. Perfect!
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 10:45 PM
Jul 2013
Many people don't want to hear this kind of tough love, of course. They'd like to bury their heads in the sand and pretend that all white children are as sweet and harmless as Taylor Swift. But the reality is that the statistics tell a different story. For instance, according to research from the Department of Justice, 84 percent of white murder victims are killed by other white people [PDF]. Similarly, white rape victims tend to be raped by other whites [PDF]. White-on-white violence is a menace to white communities across the country, and yet you never hear white leaders like Pastor Joel Osteen, Bill O'Reilly, or Hillary Clinton take a firm stance against the scourge.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
3. Oh my God. BEST BLOG POST EVER!!!
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 11:31 PM
Jul 2013
For instance, according to research from the Department of Justice, 84 percent of white murder victims are killed by other white people [PDF]. Similarly, white rape victims tend to be raped by other whites [PDF]. White-on-white violence is a menace to white communities across the country, and yet you never hear white leaders like Pastor Joel Osteen, Bill O'Reilly, or Hillary Clinton take a firm stance against the scourge.




More important than white politicians are the white parents. I'd like to ask the caregivers of the children in these videos what they've been doing. When did so many white parents fall asleep at the wheel?


But as an American of color who considers himself an ally to the white community, I'm just tired of seeing young, belligerent white people disgrace themselves year after year at surfing events, horse racing infields, and Ivy League campuses.


I'm in love. totally in love with the author of this.

AnotherDreamWeaver

(2,850 posts)
4. When I was in High School it was Surfers and Greasers
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 12:51 AM
Jul 2013

Surfers were the peacenicks, and Greasers the Car Club Crowd...
what has happened...?

M0rpheus

(885 posts)
10. Looks like they've found it in GD.
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 11:00 PM
Jul 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023375767#post84

And predictably, there's a good bit of pearl clutching.


If you do what the racist do you justify it...so now you cannot say anything if someone says "Young American blacks have become a bunch of idiotic hooligans".
It does nothing but escalate the tension and name calling...nothing good can come from it


smh

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
11. It's a fantastic write up
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 01:40 AM
Jul 2013

It's about time someone tackled this pressing and under-reported societal problem.

I for one am tired of these gangs of whites spreading like locusts across the country subverting my family's wholesome lifestyle

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
12. I thought this was a very interesting comment.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 04:48 PM
Jul 2013

from a writer with a name that appears to be Asian.

http://gawker.com/video-of-violent-rioting-surfers-shows-white-culture-o-954939719


This happened in Orange County, CA, and it's one of the places I grew up in, so I'd like to provide a bit of history with regards to a very aggressive white culture—one that is actually a white supremacist culture.

Orange County has been a hotbed of white supremacist activity, and has sometimes even been called the capital of it. The existence of skinhead gangs in places like Huntington Beach since the 1990s has been documented (see these articles published in 1993 and 1996), and the activity hasn't stopped: this 6-part series published in 2012 article talks about the white supremacy movement's activity because it turns out that the shootings in the Sikh temple in Wisconsin had roots in Orange County.

This white supremacy activity in Orange County is something that other whites are completely oblivious and blind to. If you're not fortunate enough to be white, rest assured that if you lived in Orange County in the 90s all the way up until now, you'll have heard from the supremacists at some point, especially in the so-called seaside communities. You'll have been the victim of hate crimes, harassment, racially motivated stalking, and flagrant aggression acted out with arrogance because they know the cops are not going to bust them the way they'd target Latino Americans for doing absolutely nothing except for being Latino American.

It's this part of my childhood in Orange County with Huntington Beach, Newport Beach, etc as a few of the backdrops of my childhood that has made me always, always fear groups of white men—especially young white males—more than anyone else because I've been able to detect the blind rage they have, which they express with impunity. This malicious, privileged aggression is something I have picked up on the streets of many cities in the US, including NYC, and it always surprises me that white people talk about everyone else being dangerous and frightening when it's actually the other way around. Monday 9:49pm

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
13. Very true
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 09:50 AM
Aug 2013

But if we point it out - we get smacked with 'reverse racism' charges when in fact - it's just a reality. . .

. . . always fear groups of white men—especially young white males—more than anyone else because I've been able to detect the blind rage they have, which they express with impunity.


Historically - groups of young angry white men have been extremely dangerous to minority Americans.

NOLALady

(4,003 posts)
14. Whenever I see a post justifying
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 04:16 PM
Aug 2013

the profiling of Black and Brown people due to fear, I have to ask about the source of the fear. Why are they so afraid?

Historically, non whites have had very good reason to fear Whites.

There's no history in this country of widespread lynching, killing and targeting of whites by any non white group. I have yet to see non white law enforcement hosing and turning dogs loose on white children.

Yet, many still feel justified in their "fear" of non whites. Or, so they say.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
18. I hope you noticed ...
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 09:22 PM
Aug 2013

I left the "R" out of projection.

I thought I was making a cute play on words.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
15. And property ...
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 08:13 AM
Aug 2013

when something really important happens … like when their college/city’s team loses (or wins) the championship.

My mother used to always say: "You won't suspect it in someone else, unless you can see you doing it."

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