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JI7

(89,250 posts)
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:57 AM Feb 2016

Black Lives Matter Protests Hillary Clinton

hopefully there are no conspiracy theories with this . i expect to see more of this as we get into the national campaign and clinton is likely to be the nominee. i think most here said this was going to happen. the secret service makes it tougher to protest her but this was a private event which made it easier once they got in.


<A Black Lives Matter activist disrupted a private event featuring Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton on Wednesday and confronted her regarding her past support for policies that enabled mass incarceration, the Huffington Post reported.

Footage from the event shows Ashley Williams stand behind the former secretary of state and hold up a towel bearing the statement, “we have to bring them to heel,” a remark Clinton made in 1996 in support of the Violent Crime Control Act regarding gang members, who she also described as “super-predators.”

After Clinton turns around and reads the sign, Williams tells her, “We want you to apologize for mass incarceration. I am not a ‘super-predator,’ Hillary Clinton. Will you apologize to black people for mass incarceration?”

“Can I talk?” Clinton replies, before continuing her speech as a Secret Service agent attempts to convince Williams to leave.

Event attendees can be heard behind Williams calling her “rude.” However, she continues to press Clinton, telling her, “Please explain it to us. You owe black people an apology.”

“You know what? Nobody’s ever asked me before,” Clinton responds as another agent takes Williams by the waist and leads her away. “You’re the first person to ask me, and I am happy to address it. But you are the first person to ask me.”>



https://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/black-lives-matter-activist-confronts-clinton-over-mass-incarceration-i-am-not-a-super-predator/

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Black Lives Matter Protests Hillary Clinton (Original Post) JI7 Feb 2016 OP
Good question for all candidates Warpy Feb 2016 #1
I don't believe for one second that this was the first person to ask Hillary that question Number23 Feb 2016 #2
plus the Secret Service is always with her as a former First Lady rbrnmw Feb 2016 #11
It wasn't handled well. But I am really concerned that people are taking the "super predator" Number23 Feb 2016 #34
she may have been told that and thought she was talking a black youth rbrnmw Feb 2016 #35
Agree 100% Number23 Feb 2016 #37
I hope it never does and I don't think they will be pushed back rbrnmw Feb 2016 #39
Exactly what I thought. "She is lying" went through my head. nt thereismore Feb 2016 #29
I continue to support blm gwheezie Feb 2016 #3
I just came out of the thread on this in GDP. Of course the same hooligans that jumped all over BLM Number23 Feb 2016 #4
and all of them can simply go and fuck themselves, seriously Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #5
For fucking real. They can do it twice to themselves. I've never seen people so full of shit Number23 Feb 2016 #6
and you know what's going to happen ? South Carolina is still going to go huge for Clinton JI7 Feb 2016 #7
Yep. It has to be we "just don't know." It couldn't ever possibly be "we know and still don't want Number23 Feb 2016 #10
Black people push forward gwheezie Feb 2016 #9
there are about 2 or 3 clinton people that are as bad JI7 Feb 2016 #8
I avoid them rbrnmw Feb 2016 #12
I think you were supposed to go rushing in there brer cat Feb 2016 #16
"People who demand that this supposedly monolithic group "explain" yourselves are not in fact open Number23 Feb 2016 #38
Thanks for these, Number23! BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #24
Thanks for putting all these threads together. emulatorloo Feb 2016 #40
That was only a sampling. I could have posted a lot more and Bobbie Jo has even more Number23 Feb 2016 #41
As a white Clinton supporter, I'd say she handled it poorly 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #13
You would expect her to be better prepared. wildeyed Feb 2016 #20
I support blm myself Coolest Ranger Feb 2016 #14
It's an America problem Uponthegears Feb 2016 #15
There it is! ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #18
"Bright flower of racism" wildeyed Feb 2016 #21
I'd love that starting point, too. Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #31
Fully support blm romana Feb 2016 #17
I wanted to post SOROS11!! on a couple of those but Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #19
Remember the woman wearing a hijab wildeyed Feb 2016 #22
Oh Jesus. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #23
They have a right to be heard. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #25
Good! She needs to be able to Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #26
Good move. nt ladjf Feb 2016 #27
AFAIK, Hillary has been challenged twice, but never during a speech or a rally. Both times, it merrily Feb 2016 #28
Good for her! JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #30
Yeah, Clinton goofed. KitSileya Feb 2016 #32
Why does Hillary Clinton have to be asked? She knows what she and her husband did was wrong. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #33
K&R ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #36

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
1. Good question for all candidates
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:01 AM
Feb 2016

especially since the War on Drugs is the excuse for locking up enough black men that the white male ruling class wouldn't be unduly inconvenienced by the Civil Rights Acts.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
2. I don't believe for one second that this was the first person to ask Hillary that question
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:33 AM
Feb 2016

But then again, having read about the super tight, super close circle she has that keeps 99% of the world away from her, there may be some truth to it.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
11. plus the Secret Service is always with her as a former First Lady
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:04 AM
Feb 2016

I still don't think it was handled well, maybe she will address it.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
34. It wasn't handled well. But I am really concerned that people are taking the "super predator"
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:26 PM
Feb 2016

comment out of context. Clinton was specifically talking about gang members and I think you'd be hard pressed to find many black folks that don't consider gang members predators, "super" or otherwise.

Now, I understand why Sanders supporters are breaking their fingers trying to turn that into a "she's a racist!11" smear but I don't understand why this young activist decided to bring that into the conversation.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
35. she may have been told that and thought she was talking a black youth
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:37 PM
Feb 2016

I am glad she did it. BLM was being pushed back and it needs to be front and center until there are actions.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
37. Agree 100%
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:47 PM
Feb 2016

I was glad to see that Obama recently invited them to the White House. My biggest fear is that their cause may become mainstream or get ignored. I am glad to see that's not happening, at least not yet anyway.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
3. I continue to support blm
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:35 AM
Feb 2016

The fact they are confronting Hillary does not diminish my support for their activism.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
4. I just came out of the thread on this in GDP. Of course the same hooligans that jumped all over BLM
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:47 AM
Feb 2016

when they clowned Bernie are whooping it up and screaming that this is going to "doom" her campaign. One poster is even demanding to know where AA Duers are.

When Hillary supporters show their asses like these people did in these threads:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251503212
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251505656
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027060303 (330 recs on this one)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251463848
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251516376

then these folks can DEMAND to know where we are. And I'm not even necessarily talking about the OPs of these pieces, the comments within more than speak for themselves.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
5. and all of them can simply go and fuck themselves, seriously
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:07 AM
Feb 2016

it's all about their little candidate and we are just votes to them.

And that goes for the supporters of both candidates...

and as for Miss Scarlett O'Hillary here...

Number23

(24,544 posts)
6. For fucking real. They can do it twice to themselves. I've never seen people so full of shit
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:12 AM
Feb 2016

The only thing worse than their two faced hypocrisy is the rampant stupidity that's obviously behind it. I'd feel sorry for them if they weren't so damned hateful and dishonest.

If Hillary Clinton really expects people to believe that this is the first time she's ever been asked that question she's full of it too. Or that is a damning condemnation of the American media.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
7. and you know what's going to happen ? South Carolina is still going to go huge for Clinton
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:42 AM
Feb 2016

and they are going to think "i need to work harder to inform the blacks about this "macaca moment" . if only the blacks in sc had known about it she would have not have won"................

oh, i'm sure hillary was has been questioned, the video with the blm guy where she actually comes off looking ok shows this. if asked to explain she will probably say something about how nobody asked about that specific quote when the protest was about more than the quote itself. .

Number23

(24,544 posts)
10. Yep. It has to be we "just don't know." It couldn't ever possibly be "we know and still don't want
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:26 AM
Feb 2016

Sanders."

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
9. Black people push forward
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:56 AM
Feb 2016

Inspite of white politicians. No one running for office should get a pass. What astounds me is some liberals don't think black voters have this figured out by now. I'm glad the younger folks are acting up, while I respect the activists from my era, frankly we're about ready to drop dead. Our future depends on these young people.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
8. there are about 2 or 3 clinton people that are as bad
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:50 AM
Feb 2016

especially the one talking about black gangs terrorizing their neighborhood

brer cat

(24,568 posts)
16. I think you were supposed to go rushing in there
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:41 AM
Feb 2016

bearing a picture of Bernie and Martin, fall on your knees, and beg forgiveness for being both blind and deaf.

The fact that all of the candidates are flawed is simply not going to be acknowledged, and therefore the conversations we should have won't take place. People who demand that this supposedly monolithic group "explain" yourselves are not in fact open to receive any thing you would say. It is more than a pity, but right at the moment the correct word is escaping me.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
38. "People who demand that this supposedly monolithic group "explain" yourselves are not in fact open
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:48 PM
Feb 2016

to anything you would say."

Yep. This is exactly why 95% of the incessant demands go 100% ignored.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
24. Thanks for these, Number23!
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:13 AM
Feb 2016

I believe that BLM raises good questions, no matter which candidate they are questioning.

I will not be dissing them, even when they confront Hillary.

emulatorloo

(44,130 posts)
40. Thanks for putting all these threads together.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 06:58 PM
Feb 2016

I remember them well. Lots of folks showed their true colors. Those things can't be unsaid in spite of what we read today in GD-P.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
41. That was only a sampling. I could have posted a lot more and Bobbie Jo has even more
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:09 PM
Feb 2016

that she's been posting.

You're damn right. Those things can't be "unsaid" and the fact that so many are now trying to leap and pretend that BLM matter so much and is "right" now is vomit inducing. They have no idea how idiotic they look.

BLM goes after Sanders? They're agents of the Illuminati, Soros and overall darkness and must be destroyed.

BLM goes after Clinton? Suddenly they become the one truth and defenders of justice and the divine spirit.

Like I said, I have never seen people so full of shit. They fool absolutely no one and they appear to be the only ones that don't understand that.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
13. As a white Clinton supporter, I'd say she handled it poorly
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:11 AM
Feb 2016

and I hope this incident makes her realize that it is a matter she needs to address.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
20. You would expect her to be better prepared.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 10:23 AM
Feb 2016

Haven't watch the video. No power and I am blowing up my data...... I'll watch later at work.

But from the description, sounds like she did poorly. And not like the campaign didn't see this coming....

I am a Clinton supporter too, but applaud what #BLM does, even when it makes my favored candidate look bad. Activists are SUPPOSED to make candidates look bad. That is what forces the changes. Key is to get a candidate who can take it on board and is then WILLING to change.

 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
15. It's an America problem
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:51 AM
Feb 2016

Straight up, I'm a Bernie supporter BUT it has ZERO to do with his racial justice policies OR with Hillary's racial justice policies. The day I count on folks that look like them to protect, or even understand, me or mine is the day I put myself under the yoke.

We see it here, even confronting a bright flower of racism that can be seen from a mile off like the so-called "War on Drugs" creates a "controversy." What's worse, when our "supporters" start to talk about it, their discussion is infected with stereotypes of "our problems" and "what they can do to help."

Speaking for myself, you know what I would like to see as a starting point? How about America admit that what they call "our problems" are actually exactly what they want them to be and what they intentionally created. They create gangs, unemployment, crime, violence, misogyny, drug addiction, academic "failing," broken families, etc. AND they concentrate those "problems" in little pockets where they can point to them and simultaneously justify how they demonize, pity, or otherwise lord over us as a race (their justification for everything from the war on drugs to the insane proliferation of "self-protection" gun ownership, to capital punishment) while making sure that those "problems" only rarely diminish THEIR lives. What's more, when pointing to these pockets they ignore the FACT that, despite their best efforts, the vast majority (and not only those of us who make the front page of the paper getting some medal) have not just overcome, we have excelled.

Quit talking about "our problems" . . . talk about yours.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
31. I'd love that starting point, too.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:11 PM
Feb 2016

But it's been time and time again, America would rather kill itself first than directly face the problem head-on, from the Civil War to their drug addictions to the spike in early deaths and suicides. Just about every problem the country faces as a whole is deeply rooted in supremacy because they refuse to link what they do to PoC to the affect on themselves.

We just have to wait for them to catch up but make sure they stop killing us with impunity while they put themselves through a slow death.

romana

(765 posts)
17. Fully support blm
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:47 AM
Feb 2016

I agree she did not handle it well. Hopefully she will take the opportunity being offered.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
19. I wanted to post SOROS11!! on a couple of those but
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 10:10 AM
Feb 2016

didn't want anyone to think I was serious.

I'm glad about the way BLM has brought conversations about racism into the election. I'd honestly rather these protests be at Democratic functions than at GOP functions--those Trump supporters scare me.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
22. Remember the woman wearing a hijab
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 10:28 AM
Feb 2016

who got kicked out of a Trump rally? She is a local activist and I just read a post about how she is now targeted by some organized hate group

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
25. They have a right to be heard.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:27 AM
Feb 2016

As usual, the same people who didn't stand with them before are conveniently standing with them now, and using the incident as a political cudgel.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
26. Good! She needs to be able to
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:30 AM
Feb 2016

explain herself thoroughly to the young ones, and not pretend that it's only those of us old enough to remember, or lived especially in D.C. - then known as the nation's murder capital - during that time who understand the era.

Get them both.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
28. AFAIK, Hillary has been challenged twice, but never during a speech or a rally. Both times, it
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:33 AM
Feb 2016

was under more private circumstances than the time at the beginning of his run that Sanders was challenged. Is that correct?

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
32. Yeah, Clinton goofed.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:22 PM
Feb 2016

Good of Ashley Williams to have the courage to confront Clinton. As said up-thread, that is what activists are supposed to do.

A big part of why I am a Clinton supporter is because I think she has the will to change her stances when things like this happens. The future will show if I am right.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
33. Why does Hillary Clinton have to be asked? She knows what she and her husband did was wrong.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:52 PM
Feb 2016

Does she have to be asked before issuing an apology? See, this is why I can't stand this woman.

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