Sick of the incessant thinly veiled racism in GDP

[rbrnmw]

A large majority of the posts have something to do with black voters. They either are doing it on purpose or they are fucking clueless. They alert stalk anybody who tries to point out how insulting they are being by doing this.

[leftofcool]

1. Not all of those posts are thinly veiled.

[rbrnmw]

2. That's true

I am going to stay in here until after Super Tuesday it's toxic in GDP

[stonecutter357]

10. I was called boy yesterday and a jury let it stand.

[rbrnmw]

12. I was on that jury

I voted to hide juror #1
On Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:32 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Stand up, I say STAND UP, son.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1330680

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

calling a black person boy is racist as hell.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:41 AM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: And to add to the alert comment, the disparaging remarks to any DU member is over the top.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Wow, talk about going over your head...
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The use of the word boy does not appear to me to be used in the pejorative sense that the alerter is concerned about.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Lighten up, Francis

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[stonecutter357]

16. you would think the admins would hide that one..

[rbrnmw]

17. I alerted the results

maybe they will see it

[pacalo]

20. There's a misunderstanding here due to a generation gap.

Older DUers remember Foghorn Leghorn as a Looney Toon cartoon character from when we were kids.

[brer cat]

28. We also remember Sambo, Mammy, and pickaninnies.

Oh for the "good ole days."

[pacalo]

33. Mea culpa.

I can see where you're coming from now. At least I learned something from posting about it.

I didn't want to see someone's feelings hurt out of mixed signals.

Again, sorry.

[brer cat]

35. Thank you.

[pacalo]

37. I thank you, too.

[Digital Puppy]

62. What I don't understand is...

If you can see this as BS supporter, can't you help spread the message that the AA Forum and it's members don't need folks preaching at them about how dumb they are to not support a particular candidate...or how we have Stockholm Syndrome...or not educated enough to make an informed decision....can you help tell the idiots in your home camp to chill the fuck out an stop alert stalking and racist judging?

I'm not committed to either candidate on the Dem side, but you BS'ers are really f'd up in your actions. Don't tell me this crap is on "both sides" that a bunch of bull. A simple search in this forum will indicate that.

I appreciate you being back here and your demeanor and your responses. I need you to go tell those others because I don't have patience for stupidity and will certainly get a hide or ban or whatever the hell mob deems as my punishment.

Don't just apologize or sympathize, be an advocate and let them know!

[Hortensis]

59. Sambo was actually a favorite book when

I was small. I thought Sambo was a real winner because he was smart. Oh, well.

Stonecutter, what post was that? I OD'd on that forum and have missed almost all that's been going on, just go in to poke with a sharp-tipped fact now and then, or for a quick dip in the mud. Do you think, now that it is finally unmistakable, that "they" are blaming "blacks" particularly for Bernie's (inevitable) fade? Or just typical of one of one of their larger angst flares?

[brer cat]

61. I have heard that from many black people.

It is understandable considering the story line where he is indeed smart and a hero, but most of the countless versions that were published had absolutely vile illustrations, and they were intended for children! Of course that this was a book of choice for black children reflects the dearth of appropriate literature for black children that existed for much of our history.

[72DejaVu]

46. The character of Foghorn Leghorn

Was based on a character named "Senator Cleghorn" on the Fred Allen radio show in the 1940s. The Cleghorn character was a parody of a stereotypical Southern politician who hated Northerners and idolized the Confederacy. In other words, a segregationist.


Just a little more context.

[pacalo]

47. Interesting -- I didn't know that.

Thanks.

[CincyDem]

51. "...does not appear to me to be used in the pejorative sense..."

WTF - sorry guys, I'm missing something here. There's a context in which it is acceptable to refer to someone as "boy". WTF.

[wildeyed]

18. So wrong.

And the lighten up comment? WTF.

[brer cat]

25. There are times that I think that the admins

should post the names of the jurors. No one can be so clueless as to not know what that is saying.

[NEOhiodemocrat]

40. I saw that and was shocked it was not hiden!

If I had been on that jury I sure would have voted to hide.

[Number23]

45. Plus a fucking million. You have to have a level of wit/intelligence to "veil" your true actions

Some of these folks are just hanging their asses out of the window and have been for YEARS.

[Chitown Kev]

54. I was getting ready to say

that the only part of this post that I disagreed with was the "thinly veiled" part

[Cha]

57. They're their own worst enemies.

[betsuni]

3. Both.

On purpose and fucking clueless. Anyway, totally without conscience. Normal people feel shame.

[Depaysement]

4. Like who?

Thinly veiled or not, those posts should be alerted on.

If they are using terms like "brought to heel" or "super predators" they should be alerted on.

If they are complaining about black voters not voting for their candidate because they are ____ (use the dismissive adjective du jour), they should be alerted on.

[rbrnmw]

6. Like go to GDP there is plenty there to see

[Starry Messenger]

5. It's the ones who think they are so cute that really get me.

They think no one can see what they are doing.

[rbrnmw]

7. oh they know we know what they mean

[1StrongBlackMan]

9. I think they get a secondary big kick ...

when they get to write, with wide, and batting eyes, "Who me? What did I do?"

[rbrnmw]

13. they now damn well what they did

I don't know why they are allowed to be here, but they are.

[brer cat]

24. I think that is the biggest part of it.

No one is fooled, but the fanboys rush in for the defense with how overly sensitive some of us are. Then they get to play the victim...after all being accused of racism is way more terribly horrible than living with racism.

[1StrongBlackMan]

44. Yep ...

Then they get to play the victim...after all being accused of racism is way more terribly horrible than living with racism.

As we get shown, time and time again.

[Quayblue]

49. or when they get called on it

They change it to asking opinions, for "research purposes". FOH. Not buying it. All these vocal ass people around here and people can't see. Oh wait..there's the ignore list and alerting for differing opinions...lolz

[rbrnmw]

8. They need to ask white voters why they are voting for Trump?

[stonecutter357]

11. +1

[JustAnotherGen]

23. I started the OP back here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118742639

I'd like to think my boy Martin would approve!

[brer cat]

26. Without a doubt!

[TheCowsCameHome]

14. Yeah. Both sides share the blame.

[rbrnmw]

15. ....

[Digital Puppy]

19. ??

Both sides share the blame.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

34. ...

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[Uponthegears]

21. I'm a Sanders supporter

and I see this coming from both sides (although more from Sanders supporters because, even though neither one of them know the first thing about what it means to be black, Sanders supporters are looking for "group" answers because they're the ones who have to change the status quo and do so quickly)

BUT

I have to agree with all of the comments so far. This "why do Blacks . . . ?" stuff is flat out "yous people" rhetoric.

I used to allow it because I long ago gave up on people who hadn't shared my experiences or those of the people I know getting it, but it is more than a little insulting being asked (much more so actually be TOLD) over and over again what "Black people" think instead of being asked what I think. We aren't chained together.

[Spazito]

22. It is beyond nauseating...

and the intent is clear no matter how there is a pretense otherwise.

There was a time when it would not have been allowed on DU but now it's a-okay it seems.

[ladjf]

27. "thinly veiled". It's not veiled at all. Republicans are basically

anti-Humanists. Racism is just one bad component their philosophy of raw greed and cruelty.

[brush]

29. Yeah, but the OP is about racist DU posts by alledged Democrats.

[ladjf]

30. Ah, GDP. I misread it as GOP. But, what about my point?

Do you agree?

[brush]

39. Your point is on point.

[1StrongBlackMan]

60. The point is on point and applies to the Libertarian left, as well. eom

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

32. NO! These aren't trolls! Many of these people are long-time DUers! Most of them.

[brush]

36. Isn't that the point. They're dog whistling?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

38. No. They're not dog whistling. Their racism is on display and clear to me and many others.

[brush]

41. I'm not disagreeing with you. Dog whistling is clear to real progressives . . .

the pretend kind are not fooling anyone but themselves.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

31. Of course. Because ONLY Hillary Clinton and her supporters are racists. Bernie Sanders and his fans,

on the other hand, are the only ones who are concerned with racism and have our best interests at heart. Bernie Sanders is running far behind with the black vote, so of course, his fanatics are pretending to give a shit about black people. They don't!

These same people are the ones who tell black people to shut up and sit down when we made claims about racism. Now that their candidate is supposedly a champion for civil rights, suddenly they are SOOOO concerned about racism against blacks.

The hypocrisy is astonishing, but I should not be surprised. None of us should be surprised.

[JustAnotherGen]

42. Gah now we have another

Race Baiting thread about black people not being 'thinkers' if they support Clinton.

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY is that allowed at DU but if an article about white people not being 'thinkers' if they support Clinton or Trump gets posted -

It gets hidden for being racist?

[rbrnmw]

48. I saw that shameful shit

[ismnotwasm]

43. Yeah it's bad

Really bad

[EffieBlack]

50. K&R

[HassleCat]

52. why black people get mentioned so much.

It's kind of a good thing. Maybe. Depending on how you look at it. Black voters are pivotal in the contest between Clinton and Sanders. Clinton has the loyalty of the overwhelming majority of black voters, and she's counting on them to help her stop Sanders so she can turn her attention to running against Trump. Sanders is thinking his message will hit home any minute now, and black voters will see he has something substantial to offer, while Clinton is just blowing smoke. There is a real battle for the hearts and minds of black voters. I know much of the attention is not flattering, some is preachy, some condescending, some just plain strange, but it is attention, and that's something. I guess.

[bettyellen]

56. nope, it is mostly bad attention here at DU.

[Warpy]

53. Trash it. DU will immediately become a better place to be

I trashed that forum the day it was created. I remember 2008 entirely too well.

[lovemydog]

55. Same here!