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rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:12 AM Feb 2016

The Neverending Tone Deafness of Bernie Sanders

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/25/1491492/-The-Neverending-Tone-Deafness-of-Bernie-Sanders?_=2016-02-25T17:16:19-08:00

The Neverending Tone Deafness of Bernie Sanders

By Bravenak
Thursday Feb 25, 2016 · 8:07 PM EST

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How tone deaf is Bernie Sanders on race? If we look back through his history in government, we find a much different Bernie than we would find in 1968. Is it his time living in mostly white Vermont that has affected his ability to discuss race in a clear and coherent manner? Or is it the fact that he sees race as a wedge issue, something that distracts from his all important theme of economic inequality? In my opinion, it is a combination of many elements that contribute to his stubborn attachment to shifting from race to poverty, without even demonstrating the shallowest understanding of the intersections that separate them.

We are not all poor. We are not all on welfare. We are not all in jail. So why does Bernie Sanders always pivot from matters of race to matters of poverty and incarceration? Yes, we know they are connected, but they are not the SAME THING. We all know that there are many disparities between the races in almost every walk of life, but what we need in a leader is someone who shows that they can engage us on issues and has a genuine interest in our issues. From OUR perspective.

Let's discuss a few moments of his absolute tone deafness in dealing with black americans. At the Race Forum, Bernie was addressed by a woman whose son was dealing with lung issues from the garbage plant burning near her home. She was visibly frustrated, and accused him of not being able to say 'Black'. Did he empathize? Sympathize? Discuss her son? No! He yelled out, "I said black FIFTY TIMES!", and then proceeded to discuss poverty with this middle class black business owner who wanted to discuss environmental racism. He actually told her what they were GOING to discuss. I suppose he has good reason but, I have no idea how his answer had anything to do with her questions or comments.

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The Neverending Tone Deafness of Bernie Sanders (Original Post) rbrnmw Feb 2016 OP
Excellent! brer cat Feb 2016 #1
Mahalo for posting bravenak's diary @kos in the AA Group, rbr! Cha Feb 2016 #2
Sanders would have done better with the minority vote with bravenak advising him JI7 Feb 2016 #3
damn straight rbrnmw Feb 2016 #4
She would have advised against cornel west and killer mike.. wonder whose brilliant idea Cha Feb 2016 #10
Hell yes Number23 Feb 2016 #24
MrWendel posted this in GD-P and it was hidden! betsuni Feb 2016 #5
It just survived a jury in Hill's Group. the alerter lied in the comments. Cha Feb 2016 #11
That is obscene, there is no reason to be here anymore, why do I stay? randys1 Feb 2016 #20
I am so tired of this. SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #6
Racism as a factor in environmental social segregation Ghost Dog Feb 2016 #7
K&R! stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #8
K&R Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #9
Bravo for bravenak! GusBob Feb 2016 #12
Happy to rec this! mcar Feb 2016 #13
That post in the Hillary Group was also alerted -- but left. Hortensis Feb 2016 #14
this was alerted and left too rbrnmw Feb 2016 #15
Someone runs around checking all forums? Hortensis Feb 2016 #16
they are trying to luck out and get a post hidden rbrnmw Feb 2016 #17
They are still trying to silence b. wildeyed Feb 2016 #18
Good to know! I figured it would be alerted on.. they can't handle straight up. Cha Feb 2016 #26
K&R ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #19
Kicking! Thanks, Bravenak! Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #21
DU rec for all kinds of reasons...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #22
K&R for bravenak and for BREAKING IT DOWN Number23 Feb 2016 #25
Fantastic, Bravenak! Write on! kwassa Feb 2016 #27
K&R and thanks for the link emulatorloo Feb 2016 #28
K&R n/t OneGrassRoot Feb 2016 #29

Cha

(297,323 posts)
2. Mahalo for posting bravenak's diary @kos in the AA Group, rbr!
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:35 AM
Feb 2016

Good to hear her voice on what she thinks about sanders' approach to these vital issues.. it's imporant to have different perspectives.

Brilliant brave, Thank you!

JI7

(89,252 posts)
3. Sanders would have done better with the minority vote with bravenak advising him
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:17 AM
Feb 2016

he wouldn't have won it but he would have gained a lot more than he will.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
10. She would have advised against cornel west and killer mike.. wonder whose brilliant idea
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:54 AM
Feb 2016

that was?

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
23. I am so tired of this.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:36 PM
Feb 2016

Some Bernie "supporters" are not doing him any favors, said the broken record...

Response to rbrnmw (Original post)

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
7. Racism as a factor in environmental social segregation
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:35 AM
Feb 2016

should certainly be acknowledged and addressed, as a race issue in the USA. Such segregation is, surely, and has been everywhere throughout history, essentially a socio-economic phenomenom. Where racism and xenophobia are factors they need to be recognised and debated as such.

Economic and environmental issues also need to be discussed as such.

Environmental racism is placement of low-income or minority communities in proximity of environmentally hazardous or degraded environments, such as toxic waste, pollution and urban decay. While there are competing views as to an exact definition, the interplay between environmental issues and social indicators are key to its understanding.

The primary contention issue in the definition is intent. Some definitions hold that only intentional discrimination against minorities in issues regarding the environment is what constitutes environmental racism, while others focus on the presence of unfavorable environmental conditions for minorities, intentional or not. A significant factor in creation of effective environmental segregation is the fact that low-income communities lack the organization and political power to resist introduction of dangerous technologies, as well as greater mobility of richer citizens away from areas falling into industrial and environmental decline...

/... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_racism

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
17. they are trying to luck out and get a post hidden
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:41 AM
Feb 2016

I think this whole jury nonsense is totally out of hand

Number23

(24,544 posts)
25. K&R for bravenak and for BREAKING IT DOWN
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:48 PM
Feb 2016

Which is exactly what my girl did in this piece. This line in particular is devastating:

He yelled out, "I said black FIFTY TIMES!", and then proceeded to discuss poverty with this middle class black business owner who wanted to discuss environmental racism.


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