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http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/25/1491492/-The-Neverending-Tone-Deafness-of-Bernie-Sanders?_=2016-02-25T17:16:19-08:00The Neverending Tone Deafness of Bernie Sanders
By Bravenak
Thursday Feb 25, 2016 · 8:07 PM EST
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How tone deaf is Bernie Sanders on race? If we look back through his history in government, we find a much different Bernie than we would find in 1968. Is it his time living in mostly white Vermont that has affected his ability to discuss race in a clear and coherent manner? Or is it the fact that he sees race as a wedge issue, something that distracts from his all important theme of economic inequality? In my opinion, it is a combination of many elements that contribute to his stubborn attachment to shifting from race to poverty, without even demonstrating the shallowest understanding of the intersections that separate them.
We are not all poor. We are not all on welfare. We are not all in jail. So why does Bernie Sanders always pivot from matters of race to matters of poverty and incarceration? Yes, we know they are connected, but they are not the SAME THING. We all know that there are many disparities between the races in almost every walk of life, but what we need in a leader is someone who shows that they can engage us on issues and has a genuine interest in our issues. From OUR perspective.
Let's discuss a few moments of his absolute tone deafness in dealing with black americans. At the Race Forum, Bernie was addressed by a woman whose son was dealing with lung issues from the garbage plant burning near her home. She was visibly frustrated, and accused him of not being able to say 'Black'. Did he empathize? Sympathize? Discuss her son? No! He yelled out, "I said black FIFTY TIMES!", and then proceeded to discuss poverty with this middle class black business owner who wanted to discuss environmental racism. He actually told her what they were GOING to discuss. I suppose he has good reason but, I have no idea how his answer had anything to do with her questions or comments.
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brer cat
(24,578 posts)well written and on point. K&R
Cha
(297,323 posts)Good to hear her voice on what she thinks about sanders' approach to these vital issues.. it's imporant to have different perspectives.
Brilliant brave, Thank you!
JI7
(89,252 posts)he wouldn't have won it but he would have gained a lot more than he will.
Cha
(297,323 posts)that was?
betsuni
(25,544 posts)Would like to see the stupid reason why.
Cha
(297,323 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Some Bernie "supporters" are not doing him any favors, said the broken record...
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Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)should certainly be acknowledged and addressed, as a race issue in the USA. Such segregation is, surely, and has been everywhere throughout history, essentially a socio-economic phenomenom. Where racism and xenophobia are factors they need to be recognised and debated as such.
Economic and environmental issues also need to be discussed as such.
The primary contention issue in the definition is intent. Some definitions hold that only intentional discrimination against minorities in issues regarding the environment is what constitutes environmental racism, while others focus on the presence of unfavorable environmental conditions for minorities, intentional or not. A significant factor in creation of effective environmental segregation is the fact that low-income communities lack the organization and political power to resist introduction of dangerous technologies, as well as greater mobility of richer citizens away from areas falling into industrial and environmental decline...
/... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_racism
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)WTG!
mcar
(42,334 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Why can't these groups override alerts from outsiders?
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)I think this whole jury nonsense is totally out of hand
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)Great post!
Cha
(297,323 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,992 posts)Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)They can try to silence the messenger but Never Ever the message.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Number23
(24,544 posts)Which is exactly what my girl did in this piece. This line in particular is devastating:
kwassa
(23,340 posts)emulatorloo
(44,133 posts)Straight talk from Bravenak.