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Related: About this forumHow African-Americans killed the Stereotypical Myth Put Upon them for Centuries
THE YEAR 2016 will mark the death of a myth, which had existed in the minds of too many White Americans, throughout this land. It is the unfounded belief that African Americans have constantly yearned to be given something for nothing. Of course, it was always a ridiculous unproven meme, but one which has stubbornly survived decades after decades. A purposeful cruel and erroneous stereotype, portraying an entire race of people as unambitious, while steeped in assumed laziness, and suspected criminality. A notion that encouraged the untrue fable, that African-Americans have always been willing to get whatever they could, and do so whenever it was offered.There are many reasons for this long persisting ugly myth, dating back to its use as a rationale for Slavery by the institutions' supporters. Additionally, it was termed as justification to the systematic wholesale denial of equal opportunities for Blacks, in the 20th century. As was the paternalism of White liberal Guilt in the 60s, which prompted the idea that giving back a meager hand would somehow solve America's racial "problem". In fact, this myth has been used to ferment plain old straightforward hate called racism, dating back forever.
I had written an article not long ago, and in it, I stated that the 1960s "War on Poverty":
It is a myth that was placed upon the Black community as a whole, while simultaneously giving it the job to disprove it. The original mission assigned by White folks was to have Blacks prove how much better they were, than what was expected. Instead what became the acceptable norm was to give Black folks the burden of having to excel far beyond at whatever it was. Even then, those who were seen as the best, were termed the exception, and deemed not like the others.
And so, here we are today in an election year which has perplexed quite a few! A large number of White progressives have been unpleasantly confounded as to why Black Voters are not voting for Bernie Sanders en masse. They inquire, cajole, demand, and ask to know why this is. Why are Black folks not lining up behind their once in-a-lifetime candidate in overwhelming majorities? Don't you want the Free College and Free Healthcare he promises, if elected, they ask? Don't you understand that this may be your last chance for higher wages, and income equality?
For the life of these White Progressives, they simply do not get it, and Black people are informed that their election decision just doesn't make sense, in an endless number of ways.
What those White folks simply fail to grasp is that Black folks arent having it, because we dont have it like that! African-Americans don't just want Free Stuff, and never really have. Instead African-Americans simply want what the White majority has enjoyed for so very long; the access to the exact opportunities that citizens of this nation were to be born with as a given. They no longer feel compelled to have to continue to prove what should already be their right.
African-Americans just want what anyone should want; to be given enough respect to exercise their options as they best believe will serve them; and doing so without being constantly questioned and judged. Equal opportunity means not having to explain, as it is totally unwarranted and super unnecessary. Instead, let us simply acknowledge that the old persistent myth was never true, so please let it die, because it deserves it!
brer cat
(24,615 posts)Painting affirmative action as giving something undeserved as opposed to breaking down barriers to level the playing field is another way the myth has survived.
I do hope you are correct that the myth will die.
FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)But we haven't seen a majority of Black folks following the Pied Piper.....so at least, no matter what happens,
it will be documented that the Free stuff didn't move most of us one bit!
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Perhaps because I saw it from a different viewpoint. I saw the increase in SS benefits, Medicare and Medicaid, Head Start, Indian Community Action Programs, light industrial development in rural communities, VISTA, Job Corp. Then I watched Rumsfeld and Cheney under Nixon tear down the OEO and Clinton put the finishing touches on it with the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act of 1996,
Johnson and Shriver's targets were education and health irrespective of race.
FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)that these where Black issues, even if they shouldn't have been....
It is one of the reason that Sanders went into SC reminding Black folks
about the 20 year old welfare bill! Like that is the only thing Black folks should have
cared about.....cause Welfare is a Black thing!
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)More whites than POC benefited from the War on Poverty programs. Stigmatizing any group is wrong. Can we rise above it?
Every farmer in the country is getting some sort of help from the Soil Conservation Service, is that not Welfare. The War on Poverty brought about the tax incentives for business to locate in an area, more Welfare.
Is putting food in someones stomach or educating them bad?
FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)or educating them".
Folks don't need someone putting food in their stomach...
nor educating them, as I think these are things that folks do for themselves.....
I don't know if you know how Black folks have been the center of the meme about welfare and shit,
and what you say about it doesn't change a thing.
Perhaps you should sleep on what you read instead....? That's what I would suggest.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)faulted anyone for obtaining any services available to them.
I did not vote for Reagan and I cannot and will not take responsibility for his actions. I spoke against him on every occasion beginning when he was an FBI tool for HUAC and continuing to his death.
FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)Digital Puppy
(496 posts)Especially in these primary times where folks rewrite history and become instant experts on everything moral and just...
Thanks Frenchie for bringing some intelligent and thoughtful context to the subject!
FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)I got tired of White folks informing how Black people aren't voting correctly,
cause we should be in the line for the goodies!
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Great, great post.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)Uponthegears
(1,499 posts)that it is perhaps the most widespread forms of racism, but the OP appears to come close to saying that the racism of "low expectations" is the most pernicious form of racism. That is IMHO incorrect.
For me, who has spent my life fighting for those of us who have not achieved (in other words, those of us who fit the stereotype), it suggests that the only obstacles to their success are either a lack of opportunity or a lack of effort. It denies that the dominant social group is not merely blocking their success, but rather intentionally destroying their culture (as a group) and their lives (as individuals). That, to me, is a contrary to both history and present reality.
The genocidal dominant class in the Americas my well have "justified" the Atlantic slave trade through the perpetuation of the myth of "low expectations" (using the term as a euphemism for the myth of racial superiority), but that does not erase the fact that they used the institution of slavery (particularly in the southern United States) to intentionally destroy the flourishing and vibrant cultures that the slave population brought with them from the mother land and to prevent the establishment of basic social structures AND that it did so for the sole purpose of reducing that population to nothing more than livestock. It does not erase the fact that, even now, when we look at that small segment which does fit the stereotype, we are looking at the intended results of continued cultural genocide.
At the risk of sounding unduly militant, let me add that denying that the dominant culture continues to actively attack our culture, belittles (at least to some extent) the achievements of those of us who do not fit the stereotype. In less than 200 years, the vast majority of us have gone from beasts of burden to shapers of a modern society. Tell me when any other identifiable group has achieved as much in as short a period of time?
As for the partisan portions of the OP, I will remain silent other than to say that neither candidate has, or will, say anything about racial justice that might offend white folks (in particular, white Democrats) and, accordingly, on that subject neither speaks for me, or even to me.
FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)My Op was simple....
it is discussing a long standing stereotype that Black folks have been depicted as always wanting something for nothing, and that it is a stereotype that has hurt most of us, because of its use as a political tool by White Folks against the Black Community, to ferment resentment among the White electorate. This stereotype is one of many....and I did not assign any weight to it as it compares with others. It is a myth that is false, and has particularly been proven false without a doubt in this election cycle, because the White electorate can plainly see that Black folks aren't simply voting based on how much something for nothing they can get...and if it were so, they would be lining up to vote for Bernie Sanders, and in fact, the opposite is occurring.
the fact that the White Bernie Sanders supporters do not understand why Black folks aren't necessarily attracted to a candidate solely due to what he is offering, points to the fact that they don't seem to realize that the stereotype is false to begin with.
That is what this Op is about...
As for the rest of what you are saying, you are making my point when you state that we....
"do not fit the stereotype. In less than 200 years, the vast majority of us have gone from beasts of burden to shapers of a modern society. Tell me when any other identifiable group has achieved as much in as short a period of time? "
I agree, which is why I wrote, "the original mission assigned by White folks was to have Blacks prove how much better they were, than what was expected. Instead what became the acceptable norm was to give Black folks the burden of having to excel far beyond at whatever it was. Even then, those who were seen as the best, were termed the exception, and deemed not like the others."
Uponthegears
(1,499 posts)that you and I cannot agree more on the nature and extent of racism, yet we disagree on "Bernie supporters?"
There is an easy explanation for the former . . . because what we are saying about racism is simple and indisputable truth. It may be something that would cause certain people to run screaming through the streets, but it is as certain as the sunrise.
The latter, I fear, involves far less than certainty and far more politics. Senator Sanders is not "offering handouts." He is not putting us all in the Reagan-esque "welfare queen" boat. He is reaching out to about the only slice of the only segment not already occupied by his opponent.
Sanders and Clinton hold the same position regarding mainstream issues like environmental racism, educational discrimination, etc. Unfortunately for Sanders, he has not talked about those issues for decades (while Hillary has been vocal about them) and "I'm with Hillary" is probably not a great campaign slogan for the Sanders camp. Hillary has one shortcoming and one only and that is that she has been willing to ignore/criticize those who have been utterly destroyed by racism (yes, the "stereotypes" .
Now I admit going after that shortcoming was a mistake. Going there effectively requires crossing the line across which no candidate with any hope of being elected may cross (what I call the "don't offend the white folks" line). The simple fact is that (looking, for example at racism at the criminal justice system) talking about how the Parchman (MS) practice mirrors our current system will guarantee that you will not win any general election. On the other hand, stopping at the crack/powder sentencing disparity, or even capital punishment, sounds a lot like pandering. That, however, does not make Sanders or his supporters racist.
Uponthegears
(1,499 posts)qwlauren35
(6,150 posts)While I don't believe the title, the body is spot on.
I don't see how the coffin is nailed shut. I don't see how we have changed any minds. I think what has happened is that free stuff is offered, it doesn't have sufficient appeal, and white people don't understand a.) why not, and b.) that assuming we would vote JUST BECAUSE someone offers free stuff is offensive.
Ironically, there are lots of poor Republicans who don't vote Democrat, despite "free stuff", because free stuff is not a priority. And the Left calls them stupid, instead of respecting that they have different priorities. Economics is just not everyone's voting priority.
Abortion rights trump economics for me. Everyone is different. And sometimes Progressives just don't get that.