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irisblue

(36,317 posts)
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 05:49 AM Sunday

If more white women, white men and hispanic men had voted for the smart qualified woman,

Yesterdays' marches would not have occured

https://rebelliousmagazine.com/no-kings-protest-black-people-sitting-out/

snip-"Despite the chaos and pain, the majority of White women voted for him in the next two elections. So, now that we’re nine months into his second term, there are calls to join marches against this same man. Within these eight years, I haven’t recovered from the first term of damage. The four years in between terms started with a mob storming the Capitol, followed by four years of election denial and racist, insulting comments. For the 2024 election, even though Black women leaders and ordinary citizens implored people to vote for Kamala Harris — a Black woman who had served as attorney general for California, U.S. senator of California and vice president of the United States for four years and had more than enough experience to run the country — the majority of White women went into the voting booth and voted for a convicted felon and sexual assaulter who promised to wreak havoc on Black and Brown lives. "

snip-"At this point, I truly feel that those who refused to do what was necessary to avoid this problem need to fix it. They need to get uncomfortable for a few hours for perhaps the first time in their lives. Maybe they need to experience a fraction of the loss and injustice that generations of Black people have. They need to feel a level of hurt that they blew off when we tried to tell them about our hurt.

Most Black people know that if our bodies are in the streets we will be treated differently than those with White bodies. And we’re tired of putting our bodies on the line to pave the way for someone else’s comfort. We fought for voting rights that all people enjoy. We fought for civil rights that more White women benefitted from than we did. And after all of the fighting we did to gain rights for all, too many took advantage of those rights, walked through the door, then slammed it in our face. Too many recent Brown immigrants did the same thing. They looked down on Black people when they immigrated to this country, ignoring the fact that they were able to get certain jobs or live in certain neighborhoods or attend certain schools due to barriers our Black bodies broke down. It’s time for other people to stop riding on the backs of Black people’s tactical resistance, brilliance and resilience. Others need to step up and fight with the same veracity that we have, instead of only benefiting from our triumphs. "


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Vogon_Glory

(10,115 posts)
1. Instead there would have been much smaller
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 07:42 AM
Sunday

astroturfed Tea Party-style demonstrations funded by the Kochs, the Musks, and other billionaires.

Vogon_Glory

(10,115 posts)
4. And what's more the organizers and at least a sliver of the
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 08:52 AM
Sunday

protesters waving anti-Kamala placards would have been paid to organize and run those rallies.

Accusing Democrats and progressives of being paid to be there is an old, old right-wing tactic, stretching back to the Civil Rights movement and beyond. And that’s how many of those wingers think.

I think it’s also true that with today’s Rupublicans and so-called “Conservatives” (reactionaries), anlmost every accusation is a confession.

Chasstev365

(6,489 posts)
3. Yep, they just couldn't do it.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 08:10 AM
Sunday

Because of that, there is a side of me that has ZERO sympathy people who voted against Harris when they get hurt by Trump/GOP polices.

Botany

(75,612 posts)
5. It would not have mattered "The Fix Was In." Harris crushed Trump but had 10s of millions of votes ...
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 09:26 AM
Sunday

.. deleted or flipped. Musk was into the data @ the central tabulator and operating systems levels.
of E.S.&S. and Dominion Voting Systems and Peter Tiel/Palantir were running an A.I. “clean up pro-
gram” called Digital Janitor that DID NOT flip up delete votes but hide any trace that that had happened.

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-they-didnt-just-change-the

Greg Palast has also done some good work showing @ least 4 million voters were purged prior to the election and another 1.5 million votes were stopped by the U.S.P.S. and county B. of Elections.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,935 posts)
6. We believed America was better than it is
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 03:59 PM
Sunday

We no longer trust. People who we thought were allies were not. We also believed they had learned after the first disaster but we now know most who voted for him will not learn. There will be more marches and a whole lot of pain to put this country back on the tracks but I have doubts.

ShazamIam

(2,946 posts)
7. I highly recommend the book, The 1619 Project for a very thorough documentation of the Black experience in the U.S.A. nt
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 04:04 PM
Sunday
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