I triple dog dare you to name a baseball record that will last longer than DiMaggio's hitting streak

[KamaAina]

I have one in mind. GO!

[charlie and algernon]

1. Walter Johnson's 417 Wins

Roy Halladay didn't even get to 300 wins. Clayton Kershaw has 77 wins, but he would have to average 22 wins for the next FIFTEEN years to reach Johnson's 417 record.

[KamaAina]

2. Not a bad guess at all

especially considering the rise of relief pitching, which tends to lower starters' win totals.

But I think mine may be even further out of reach.

[fishwax]

7. or Cy Young's 511 wins :) ... But Walter Johnson's 110 shutouts is pretty safe

Nolan Ryan got 61. Nobody who played in the last 20 years even reached 50. With Halladay (20) and Chris Carpenter (15) retiring, Tim Hudson is now the active leader. He has 13.

Safer than Cy Young's win total is his record for complete games: 749. Halladay retired with 67. Sabathia is now the active leader with 37.

[El Supremo]

3. Connie Mack's wins

3,731

He also has the most number of losses - 3,948.

[KamaAina]

5. DING DING DING!

That's over 37 seasons at 100 wins each, or over 41 at 90.

Hard to imagine that Mack had a losing record and yet managed to keep his job that long! Now that's a record that will stand forever!

[El Supremo]

6. He owned the damn team, that's why.

[madinmaryland]

22. Hey wait a second....

Jerrah owns and coaches the Cowboys!

[El Supremo]

23. And the Cowboys will surpass the Cubs record of futility.

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Because Jerral will keep finding replacement body parts and live and manage forever.

[Upton]

4. Ichiro's singles record..

in 2004 he had 225 singles, surpassing a record by Wee Willie Keeler that had stood since 1898. He also holds the record for consecutive 200 hit seasons at 10..and most hits in a season at 262.. I doubt any of them are going to be broken anytime soon if at all.

[denverbill]

8. I was gonna say Hack Wilson's 191 rbi. Nobody's had over 165 since 1938.

But Cy Young and Connie Mack are hard to beat as well.

[cherokeeprogressive]

9. 7 No Nos

[El Supremo]

12. In before Maid in Maryland >>

BTW, his record of 24 no hitters broken up in the 7th inning or later is way ahead of anyone else.

[cherokeeprogressive]

15. I can't see anyone throwing more than 7 in my lifetime.

I could have done without the W pic though.

Saw Ryan pitch a number of times in Anaheim. His pitches just sosounded heavy.

[madinmaryland]

26. That's so passe, El. This is more relevant now...

[El Supremo]

30. That's fine.

Because I hate Elroy along with his blow-up Shanny doll.

[madinmaryland]

27. Apparently, that is actually a Texas thing...

[El Supremo]

31. Big D in 3D?

[madinmaryland]

28. Of course, one can understand why I hate the Washington NFL team...

[hughee99]

10. Easy, 59 wins in a season. Old Hoss Radbourn, Providence Grays 1884.

Given that no pitcher even STARTS more than 35 games now, this will never be broken. As unlikely as the other records mentioned are to be broken, this one is completely impossible given the changes in the way the game is managed.

[KamaAina]

11. That was before the "modern era"

generally believed to have started about a decade after that.

[hughee99]

13. The dead ball era ended in 1919.

And it wasn't specified in the OP, but okay...

3 pitchers are tied with 31 wins since 1920, but only 1 pitcher has 27 losses. Paul Derringer, in 1933. No pitcher will come close to that, given that most pitcher don't pitch complete games anymore, and bad pitchers don't get that many starts in a season. Yes, a handful of pitchers have reached 20 losses since the game has changed to starters, middle relievers, setup men and closers, but no one will be able to top it, even on a god-awful team.

[KamaAina]

14. The modern era isn't the same as the dead-ball era.

I think it has something to do with the NL and AL becoming established as the two major leagues (the American Association had been considered a major league at one time).

[hughee99]

16. Then I think the year is 1904, the year of the first world series...

Here's a few other records...

Rickey Henderson's 1406 career stolen bases. That's 100 SB's a year for 14 years, and no one even steals that much in a single year anymore. The closes active player is Juan Pierre with 614.

Sam Crawford's 309 career triples (though he did start playing in 1899). Most MLB parks are no longer "triple friendly". The closest active player is Carl Crawford with 116. If you want to strictly modern era, Ty Cobb has 297 triples.

The records that will never be broken are the ones that are impacted by a fundamental change in the game (or the parks they play in).


And Vic Willis lost 29 in 1905.

[El Supremo]

18. 1900

The 1st year of the AL and the year almost all modern rules were in place.

[hughee99]

21. Sounds good.

It doesn't change any of the records I've suggested, though, but I always wondered what the official "modern era" was. I always assumed it started with either the "live ball era" or the League merger.

[madinmaryland]

24. And yet in 1973, the AL broke the sacred trust of the REAL fans of the game of

baseball by introducing the worst bastardization of the game with the "designated hitter" rule.

[joeybee12]

17. The Chicago Cubs have not won a world series in 105 years...and counting...

I can't imagine any team going that long now that America's Team is on top again and the Other Sox won in 2005....

[El Supremo]

19. The real winner!

Or should I say loser.

[joeybee12]

20. I'm the winner!

Chicago's the loser

[madinmaryland]

25. Dude. The Dallas Cowboys (aka America's Team) has Five Super Bowl Victories. nt

[joeybee12]

39. I get it, you're saying the Cowpies will break that 105 year losing streak! nt

[Kingofalldems]

29. I give. What is it?

[KamaAina]

35. I was thinking of Connie Mack's 3,717 wins as a manager

no one manages the same team for a whole career anymore, much less racks up over 90 wins a year over 40 years.

[opiate69]

32. 2,632

Or, Cal Ripken Jrs consecutive game streak.

[KamaAina]

37. Most of us thought Gehrig's streak was untouchable, too

[opiate69]

38. true.. but still...

16 seasons? With today's medical staffs and their knowlege? I have to imagine Cal played through some nagging injuries that most trainers would shut him down for in todays game.

[madinmaryland]

33. The statistic that most if not all of us here think the most important...

[Angleae]

34. Most wins by a team in a season.

Set in 1906 (Chicago Cubs). Tied in 2001 (Seattle Mariners).

[KamaAina]

36. *

Mariners played a 162-game season. And choked in the playoffs!

[Renew Deal]

40. 59 Wins by a pitcher in a season

Old Hoss Radbourn (1884)
59 Wins

I don't think anyone will even get to Denny McLain's 1968 record of 31.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/pitching/piwins3.shtml

[hughee99]

43. My first reaction too.

And while I don't think anyone can get to 31 wins in a season, it's a "live-ball era" record that McLain shares with 2 other people as well. The game has fundamentally changed and certain records (particularly related to pitching) are no longer achievable given the limited number of starts and innings a pitcher will throw in a season and in a career.

[Bluzmann57]

41. 511 wins by Cy Young

nothing to add.
edited to correct the number of wins. I gotta learn to type better.

[ProfessorGAC]

42. Fun Thread

And i get to soapbox. I think the consecutive game hitting streak is overrated. The year DiMaggio did that during the streak, Ted Williams hit more than 30 points higher and ended up the season more than 30 points higher in batting average.

Guy hits 406, another guy hits in 56 games in a row and wasn't even 400 during the streak.

Also, Ichiro had no super long streak and had 60 hits more the Joe D.

Sorry, i just think the consecutive game streak is less impressive than other folks.
GAC

[Capt. Obvious]

44. Number of days without a failed drug test

[KamaAina]

47. DUzy!!

[Yavin4]

45. Cubs not winning a WS in 105 years has already surpassed it

I win.

[Jamaal510]

46. 2,632 consecutive games played by Cal Ripken Jr. nt