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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 03:54 PM Aug 2014

Even the Cubs' ground crew is bush-league.

The difference is, their screw-up actually won a game for the beleaguered North Siders. Against the Giants, of course.

http://blog.sfgate.com/giants/2014/08/20/details-of-sf-giants-protest-rules-were-not-properly-applied/

The Giants formally filed a protest with Major League Baseball this morning, citing Rule 4.12 (a)(3) and claiming the Cubs’ grounds crew didn’t do what umpires requested Tuesday night at Wrigley Field....

Baer wouldn’t provide specifics of the protest, but the issue concerning the Giants is that the umpires directed the grounds crew to cover the field – and the grounds crew didn’t comply.

The crew brought the tarp onto the infield crookedly, and the weight of the water from the rainstorm prematurely ended their efforts to cover it fully. As a result, areas around the plate and on the left side of the infield were exposed to more rain.

When the tarp was removed after the rain stopped, the infield was covered in water. After a 4-hour, 34-minute delay, umpire crew chief Hunter Wendelstedt deemed the field unplayable and called the game, giving the Cubs a 2-0 victory even though just 4 ½ innings were played.




Hoo boy. If they end up losing the division, or being shut out of $elig's goofy play-in game , by one game...

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Even the Cubs' ground crew is bush-league. (Original Post) KamaAina Aug 2014 OP
Inexcusable Auggie Aug 2014 #1
BREAKING: Giants protest upheld; rain-shortened game to resume Auggie Aug 2014 #2
Even Cub Fans Agree ProfessorGAC Aug 2014 #3
First protest the Giants won since 1943 ... Auggie Aug 2014 #4
Well, NO! ProfessorGAC Aug 2014 #5
They did. GoCubsGo Aug 2014 #8
Faith Grasshpper ProfessorGAC Aug 2014 #9
Another rain delay! El Supremo Aug 2014 #6
Yeah, but at least the tarp is on correctly Auggie Aug 2014 #7
It was Obama's fault! KamaAina Aug 2014 #10
I root agaist them because of how they treated one of their most loyal fans. Iggo Aug 2014 #11

Auggie

(31,172 posts)
2. BREAKING: Giants protest upheld; rain-shortened game to resume
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 08:32 PM
Aug 2014

CHICAGO -- The Giants' protest to Major League Baseball on Wednesday over Tuesday night's 2-0 loss to the Chicago Cubs was upheld. The game will resume at 2:05 p.m. PT on Thursday, with the regularly scheduled series finale to follow at 5:05 p.m.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/sf/san-francisco-giants-win-protest-over-rain-shortened-loss-in-chicago?ymd=20140820&content_id=90563200&vkey=news_sf

Right thing to do.

ProfessorGAC

(65,057 posts)
3. Even Cub Fans Agree
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 06:45 AM
Aug 2014

Everyone i know who is also a Cubs fan thinks the game should be concluded. Too much at stake for the Giants.

Auggie

(31,172 posts)
4. First protest the Giants won since 1943 ...
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 11:39 AM
Aug 2014

there haven't been any sucessful protests since 1986!

Giants lobbied hard on this. This is the rule they pointed to that made the difference:

Rule 4.12(a)(3), which states a game can be considered suspended in the case of a "malfunction of a mechanical field device under control of the home club."


From the S.F. Chronicle:

The Wrigley Field tarp fit the description, according to MLB's ruling. The grounds crew pulled the tarp crookedly onto the infield, and the weight of the water from the heavy, sudden rainstorm prematurely ended efforts to cover it fully. As a result, areas around the plate and on the left side of the infield were drenched.

(Joe Torre, MLB's executive vice president of baseball operations) said in a statement that the Cubs' "inability to deploy the tarp appropriately was caused by the failure to properly wrap and spool the tarp after its last use. As a result, the groundskeeping crew was unable to properly deploy the tarp after the rain worsened."


http://www.sfgate.com/giants/shea/article/Giants-win-protest-of-Tuesday-s-game-then-beat-5702167.php

Now win the dang game.

ProfessorGAC

(65,057 posts)
5. Well, NO!
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 05:00 PM
Aug 2014

i still want the Cubs to win the game. Let's get serious!

What Theo is doing is very encouraging. Actually i'm ok if the Giants win this. Let's talk next season or the one after that.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
8. They did.
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 09:42 PM
Aug 2014

They let one run in, but still managed to hold on. And, yeah, things have been very encouraging. I wish they'd hung onto Darwin Barney, but Javy Baez sure is doing well. I hope he doesn't turn into another Geovany Soto--great his rookie year. After that, not so much.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
10. It was Obama's fault!
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 06:48 PM
Aug 2014

No, really.

https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/cubs-cut-grounds-crew-hours-to-avoid-paying-health-insurance-%E2%80%94-report-125552399.html

The Chicago Cubs denied an assertion by the Chicago Sun-Times on Friday that the tarp debacle earlier in the week against the San Francisco Giants happened because the club short-staffs the grounds crew at Wrigley Field in order to avoid paying health insurance.

A surprising storm at Wrigley on Tuesday night caused a long delay because chief Roger Baird's working crew couldn't get the tarp — which had become saturated with water as it was unfurled — to cover the infield quickly enough. With field conditions unplayable even 4 1/2 hours after the rain stopped, umpires called the game in favor of the Cubs, who were leading in the bottom of the fifth inning. In a surprising but just turn of events, Major League Baseball upheld a protest by the Giants, and the teams resumed the suspended game Thursday. The Cubs won 2-1, but not before being thoroughly embarrassed.

Thoroughly, but not completely. That's if the Sun-Times report, which cites several unnamed sources within and outside the organization, is true:


Good thing they suck. Otherwise I'd have to root against them!
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