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Auggie

(31,173 posts)
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:21 PM Sep 2014

12th man advantage missing at 49ers Levi's Stadium debut; many fans watching from enclosed bars

Ann Killion, San Francisco Chronicle:

The stadium is still a relative unknown. How will it play? How will it sound? What will the experience be like?

Fans seem to care most about the sound because they feel the archrival Seattle Seahawks have an unfair advantage at CenturyLink Field. The press box is sealed shut, so I took a trip into the stands, while the Bears were on offense in the first half. It was loud, but I carried on a conversation with a fan while the Bears were facing a third down. You can't do that at CenturyLink, not even shouting into a companion's ears. In fact, Levi's didn't seem any louder than the Stick.

One side of the stadium is a glassed-in wall of suites and clubs that won't be producing any sounds. The open-air ends let the sound escape and create a strange wind tunnel. Another problem for acoustics: The best seats between the 40-yard lines were often vacant, even during key moments in the game. The patrons are clearly choosing to go below to the clubs to eat, drink and watch screens.

http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/49ers-opening-party-goes-smoothly-but-ends-all-5755643.php

The stadium has a green roof, many bars, fancy food, and wi-fi, but the most important aspect -- crowd roar that could actually help the home team win -- was given the backseat in favor of coddling to the wealthiest fans. Then they priced-out many of the Candlestick faithful with exorbitant seat licensing costs and asked the remaining to schlep all the way to Santa Clara.

Smart stadium my ass.

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12th man advantage missing at 49ers Levi's Stadium debut; many fans watching from enclosed bars (Original Post) Auggie Sep 2014 OP
Superbowl tickets started out at $6. It's increasingly a rich person's activity. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #1
They're finding a different kind of fan in the rich Auggie Sep 2014 #3
Perhaps all their fans are still in Dallas? n/t hughee99 Sep 2014 #2
Dammit. You beat me to that one!!! madinmaryland Sep 2014 #4
A problem w/ most of the new stadiums JonLP24 Sep 2014 #5
Your point regarding recouping expenses by "taxing" the wealthier fans is spot on, Auggie Sep 2014 #6
I think that's the 11th-man advantage KamaAina Sep 2014 #7
Well, at least we managed to put up 31 KamaAina Sep 2014 #8
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Superbowl tickets started out at $6. It's increasingly a rich person's activity.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:27 PM
Sep 2014

I'm not surprised.

Interesting that people are finding seats to watch the game on screens.

Why not just stay home?

Auggie

(31,173 posts)
3. They're finding a different kind of fan in the rich
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 02:17 PM
Sep 2014

Wealthy people made Levi's stadium design decisions based on their own preferences and it's showing.

One thing about the old stadiums is that they were great equalizers. You still had the cheap seats and the pricey seats but everyone was focused on one activity -- the game. There weren't suites or private clubs. You shared everything ... the bad concession stands, the disgusting restrooms, the cramped concourses, etc. But it did bring everyone together under the same experience and that was good.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
5. A problem w/ most of the new stadiums
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 06:08 PM
Sep 2014

Seattle had sound noise in mind by using Husky Stadium as a design for crowd noise. Arizona does have a loud stadium but don't think it was by design.

Santa Clara needs the wealthy fans and seat license to get their money back. Actually was a good deal in comparison to pretty much any other stadium/arena deal.

Auggie

(31,173 posts)
6. Your point regarding recouping expenses by "taxing" the wealthier fans is spot on,
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 06:59 PM
Sep 2014

but they went too far in offering amenities that pushed the construction budget over a billion dollars -- $1.2 billion to be exact.

They could have designed that stadium with crowd noise in mind -- huge missed opportunity.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
7. I think that's the 11th-man advantage
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 07:14 PM
Sep 2014

They might as well have just put an empty Kaepernick jersey on the bench.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
8. Well, at least we managed to put up 31
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 12:08 PM
Sep 2014

arrests, that is.

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_26538697/santa-clara-police-arrest-31-at-inaugural-regular

Officers arrested 31 people, primarily for alcohol-related offenses, at the San Francisco 49ers' inaugural regular-season game at the new Levi's Stadium on Sunday, according to the Santa Clara Police Department.

Most if not all of the arrests involved public drunkenness, including at least one battery allegation that likely stemmed from drinking too much, Lt. Kurt Clarke said.

The arrest total is generally in line with what typically occurred when the team played at Candlestick Park. At the last regular-season game there, on Dec. 23, San Francisco police made 30 arrests, also mostly involving drunkenness.

But Clarke warned against direct comparisons given the once-in-a-generation draw of a venue's first-ever regular-season game.


Had I been there, it would have been 32.

Maybe they can convert one or two of those club suites into the Left Coast equivalent of the Eagles' old Section 700.
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