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Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 11:56 PM Jan 2015

Troy Aikman afraid Brady Will Surpass Him In Rings Total......

Last edited Tue Jan 27, 2015, 10:39 PM - Edit history (1)

Joe Montana Didn't talk shit
Terry Bradshaw Didn't talk shit
TONY Romo Can't talk Shit
No other Quarterback can talk shit,
But the foolish investment loser and bankrupt Mark Brunell,
and Troy ( if I Only Had a 4th Ring To be That Good) Aikman
Decides to try and and dicredit the best to play the game.
Have at you.!!!

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Troy Aikman afraid Brady Will Surpass Him In Rings Total...... (Original Post) Grassy Knoll Jan 2015 OP
Brady would run rings around Aikman KamaAina Jan 2015 #1
sorry... trumad Jan 2015 #3
Then again, you think Tannehill's Fins would beat Brady's Pats. KamaAina Jan 2015 #9
they did this season. trumad Jan 2015 #10
Once KamaAina Jan 2015 #12
a win is a win trumad Jan 2015 #13
Aikman's Cowboys would have kicked "Pretty Boy's" team's asses. Period. madinmaryland Jan 2015 #5
Brady couldn't even run rings around Eli fucking Manning! frylock Jan 2015 #7
Tough comparison. hughee99 Jan 2015 #11
In what way? JonLP24 Jan 2015 #17
The way they used to call illegal contact a decade ago and now is vastly different. hughee99 Jan 2015 #18
I have a lot of respect for Mark Brunell JonLP24 Jan 2015 #2
Aikman with all his rings and glory is never mentioned in the discussion chelsea0011 Jan 2015 #4
Is Fran Tarkenton afraid Brady is going to surpass him in Super Bowl losses? frylock Jan 2015 #6
Are you factoring in spying on the other team and deflating the footballs? Yavin4 Jan 2015 #8
Who's We? ProfessorGAC Jan 2015 #15
After his infantile behavior on air last week, I give this many "f's" about Aikman... ScreamingMeemie Jan 2015 #14
Yup. bigwillq Jan 2015 #16

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
11. Tough comparison.
Sun Jan 25, 2015, 03:58 AM
Jan 2015

Players tend to be bigger and faster now than they were 20 years ago. The cowboys line was huge for 1995, they'd be the same size as New England's OL this year, which is about middle of the pack for today's NFL. The Defensive linemen have gotten bigger and faster over the last two decades as well, which would probably cause some issues for the Cowboys running game. Conversely, the Cowboys DL would be considered smaller by today's standards, which could create problems for them stopping the run.

Do you play by the rules of 1995 where cornerbacks can mug the receivers on the line, or the current ones? The patriots won a couple of SB's playing that style, but that was a decade ago, and other than Browner, I'm not sure their current personnel could do it. I'm also skeptical that some of the Pats receivers would be able to run their routes against that style of Cowboys defense.

With the constant increase of size and speed that has been going on in the NFL since the beginning, as well as rule changes that affect the way the game is played, it's tough to really have an honest comparison of teams from different eras.

Compare either team to the 72 dolphins, and it wouldn't even be close.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
17. In what way?
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 01:36 AM
Jan 2015

The most sweeping passing game rule changes was the 5 yard cap in 1978 on allowing contact with a change of emphasis a long the way with 2014 one of them but the rule still exists. 94 was another year where they placed on emphasis on prohibiting contact after 5 years though this was to discourage "down-field chucking" because QBs would take advantage of the contact still taking place and get an easy pass interference flag.

Denver was notable for using an undersized offensive line at-the-time which was helpful for their zone block schemes.

Personally, I feel the early 2000s Patriots would be a better team with their terrific pass defense and a shut down corner of their own Ty Law. They also roughed up Indy receivers in 2003.

72 Dolphins was interesting before the most sweeping changes. They could mug receivers all-the-way down field but this was after the "run friendly" blocking change rules, 72 was one of those teams that had 1,000 rushers or two 900+ rushers to include the 2005 Denver Broncos. They didn't throw often but Paul Warfield was a terrific receiver with a high YPC (implying speed). Not to mention a terrific defense of their own & collectively as a unit went to 3 straight Super Bowls.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
18. The way they used to call illegal contact a decade ago and now is vastly different.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 10:58 AM
Jan 2015

I guess it's not a rule change as such, but the receivers could get away with a level of "incidental contact" that would be flagged every time now.

As for the 72 dolphins, their offensive line averaged about 250 lbs. They wouldn't have been able to run or protect the QB against either the 95 Cowboys or today's Patriots... Hell, they wouldn't be able to protect the quarterback against today's Raiders, Jaguars or Ohio State.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
2. I have a lot of respect for Mark Brunell
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 01:06 AM
Jan 2015

I'll never forget when Jacksonville crushed Denver at home when the Broncos looked like a Super Bowl team, they ended up winning the next two seasons and that 14-2 Jacksonville team was really great. Gave Dan Marino a crushing defeat in his last game--only problem was they couldn't beat the Titans. He eventually became a journeyman but he was a big reason why Jacksonville quickly became a contending team after expansion.

I can't think of a QB that talks more shit Terry Bradshaw, he was very hard on Elway in his early years. I've also noted he tends to dislike rookie QBs who tend to lead to a mention of Terry Bradshaw's rookie year stats for comparison.

Here is the thing about rings, I think Tom Brady is a much better QB after he won Super Bowls, the 3rd is that cusp. It was when he started performing at an above-average to elite level. Also compare any QB who you think is merely good to Terry Bradshaw and that QB likely has better numbers. The 70s QB was a pretty solid group but is probably the weakest decade for top QBs.

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
4. Aikman with all his rings and glory is never mentioned in the discussion
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 09:10 AM
Jan 2015

of greatest QB's like Brady always is. This must bug him. And now it shows.

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
8. Are you factoring in spying on the other team and deflating the footballs?
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 05:40 PM
Jan 2015

Because we have to take that into account when we do an evaluation.

ProfessorGAC

(65,057 posts)
15. Who's We?
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 12:08 PM
Jan 2015

I don't take that into account. I think it quite naive to believe that every time is skirting or breaking some rule on a routine basis.

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