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Related: About this forumOn Kyle Williams, Billy Cundiff, and Becoming a Legendary Goat
On Kyle Williams, Billy Cundiff, and Becoming a Legendary Goat
The signature takeaway from yesterday's terrific NFC and AFC Championship Games other than that, holy crap you guys, the Giants are in the Super Bowl was the creation of two goats for the presumed ages. In New England's win over Baltimore, Ravens kicker Billy Cundiff missed a chip shot field goal that would have sent the game into overtime. In the Giants' win over the 49ers, kick return Kyle Williams fumbled two punts one that bounced off his knee in the fourth quarter and one more traditionally taken away in overtime that led to ten Giants points in a defensive struggle, including the game-winning Lawrence Tynes field goal. It's tough to be much more of a goat than that.
Thing is, though, both Cundiff and Williams who, we didn't realize until this morning, is the son of Chicago White Sox general manager Kenny Williams lack a crucial component in becoming historical, legendary, lifelong despised goats: They don't play for traditionally tortured franchises.
Last week, we talked about how all four teams in the conference championship games had a history of franchise success; three of the entrants (New York, New England, and Baltimore) had won titles in the last decade, and the other (San Francisco) had a lifetime 5-0 Super Bowl record. There was no chance of any of those teams having any sort of credible claim on being tortured, star-crossed, or somehow sadsack.
That's crucial to cementing goat status. Sports history's most famous goats are ones who somehow deny history, who cost their long-suffering fans the opportunity at oft-delayed redemption. You need to have a fanbase that's desperate for a championship, and to have you personally take that away from them, to achieve true rarefied goat status.http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2012/01/kyle-williams-billy-cundiff-and-legendary-goats.html
The signature takeaway from yesterday's terrific NFC and AFC Championship Games other than that, holy crap you guys, the Giants are in the Super Bowl was the creation of two goats for the presumed ages. In New England's win over Baltimore, Ravens kicker Billy Cundiff missed a chip shot field goal that would have sent the game into overtime. In the Giants' win over the 49ers, kick return Kyle Williams fumbled two punts one that bounced off his knee in the fourth quarter and one more traditionally taken away in overtime that led to ten Giants points in a defensive struggle, including the game-winning Lawrence Tynes field goal. It's tough to be much more of a goat than that.
Thing is, though, both Cundiff and Williams who, we didn't realize until this morning, is the son of Chicago White Sox general manager Kenny Williams lack a crucial component in becoming historical, legendary, lifelong despised goats: They don't play for traditionally tortured franchises.
Last week, we talked about how all four teams in the conference championship games had a history of franchise success; three of the entrants (New York, New England, and Baltimore) had won titles in the last decade, and the other (San Francisco) had a lifetime 5-0 Super Bowl record. There was no chance of any of those teams having any sort of credible claim on being tortured, star-crossed, or somehow sadsack.
That's crucial to cementing goat status. Sports history's most famous goats are ones who somehow deny history, who cost their long-suffering fans the opportunity at oft-delayed redemption. You need to have a fanbase that's desperate for a championship, and to have you personally take that away from them, to achieve true rarefied goat status.http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2012/01/kyle-williams-billy-cundiff-and-legendary-goats.html
Get off their backs. You're going to blame a placekicker and a rookie reserve for their teams' failures?
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On Kyle Williams, Billy Cundiff, and Becoming a Legendary Goat (Original Post)
bluedigger
Jan 2012
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joeybee12
(56,177 posts)1. Evans is Baltimore's real goat...
BRING THE BALL IN CLOSE!!!
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)5. You're my hero joey
Finally someone mentions that and not only this forum I've been reading, also ESPN chat/message boards with rare mentions.
It's so damn basic and he didn't do it...for which I am eternally grateful!
Yavin4
(35,445 posts)8. Yep. The Superbowl Was in His Arms.
You're paid to make catches, difficult catches, game ending cathces. If you cannot do that, then you shouldn't be in the NFL.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)2. Jacoby Jones is a little bit happier this Monday morning.
bluedigger
(17,087 posts)3. Already forgotten!
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)4. who said it?... probably a lot of coaches, but
Some coach said as I recall, that a team should never be put in the position of having a kicker win the game for you
OK... my sentence structure sucks, but you all get the idea.
Auggie
(31,184 posts)6. I don't blame Williams:
Yavin4
(35,445 posts)7. If I were actor, Billy Crudup, I would avoid Baltimore for a while
His last name is too similar. Better safe than sorry: