Ignorance Asking

[no_hypocrisy]

Re The Masters Golf Tournament

Nobody knows who's going to win. Even down to the final round, the last two holes, it could depend upon at least two players.

How is the famous green blazer ready for the winner? Are all the players measured and a green jacket made in preparation or are the jackets made the night before the last round? (They all can't be the same size . . . . )

[Ohiogal]

1. Here is an answer to your question

https://thegolfnewsnet.com/golfnewsnetteam/2016/04/10/masters-winners-fitted-green-jacket-17964/

[no_hypocrisy]

4. Thank you for your response.

Another imponderable put to rest.

[ProfessorGAC]

7. It Goes Even Farther Than What Is In That Article

There have been times when the "jackets they have lying around" weren't close to the right size.

So, they have gone to MEMBERS who are there volunteering for the tournament and borrow their jacket for the ceremony.

Then they fit the winner for his own jacket. When the new jacket comes in, they DON'T send it to the winner.

They put it in a locker and the next time the winner comes to Augusta they can pick up the jacket.

Niklaus has told a story that they did that for him. Then he left the jacket there, but in his locker. For whatever reason, the guy who actually was the member, never asked about it.

A year later Jack comes back and in his locker is the same jacket. He went to the tournament director and told him he still had the other guy's jacket. A mix up occurred and someone checked the locker and saw a jacket so they figured they had gotten Jack's own. They didn't. So, Clifford Roberts immediately had someone fit Jack and call in an order. For the rest of that tournament, he still didn't have his own jacket and when he had to put the jacket on that year's winner, he was STILL wearing the other member's jacket.

He didn't get his own jacket until he went back for a practice round the next year, a full 2 years after he actually won his first Masters.

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. I would pay money to see Tiger break the record of that filthy prick Nicklaus

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That no good filthy fucking nicklaus

Nicklaus was quoted in the July 10 editions of the daily Vancouver Province, saying blacks have "different muscles that react in different ways" when he was asked to explain why there are not more blacks playing at the highest levels of the game.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1994/08/10/nicklaus-clarifies-remarks-on-blacks/8be7f5f2-9672-49bd-a689-d3c8b6b7699e/?utm_term=.48fcdfac8278



no good fucker

What did surprise me, however, was the mention in The Post that Jack Nicklaus supported and would vote for Trump.

http://opinionzone.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2016/06/07/letter-jack-nicklaus-support-for-donald-trump-is-a-shock/

[Brainstormy]

3. Me too! n/t

[SCantiGOP]

5. So Woods the adulterer is your role model?

What’s your beef with Nicklaus? He is known as a decent and honorable guy.

[unblock]

6. nicklaus and i grew up in the same town, went to the same high school.

i never met him but i heard a lot about him, partly from him being a "home town hero" and partly because one of our neighbors worked for him.

the town, upper arlington, right outside of columbus, ohio, was overwhelmingly white, overwhelmingly christian, overwhelmingly protestant, and pretty much the rich suburb of columbus. unsurprisingly, it leaned rather republican.

it's close to ohio state university, so there were also some university families, which explains my being there.


there was a *lot* of ignorance about race, religion, etc. i got the religious ignorance aspect of it personally, being jewish. i didn't really see much of the racial ignorance but i knew it was there. in both cases, it's not so much the overt "i hate" kind of bigotry, it's the more insidious "i'll just go ahead and believe the stereotypes because i don't know any better" kind of bigotry.

i rather suspect nicklaus fits right into that. lived much of his life with minimal interaction with people not like himself, and just doesn't know any better. but of course, being republican, he doesn't let that stop him from spouting a stupid opinion.



anyway, upbringing counts for a lot. i grew up in the same community and also had minimal interaction with people of different races, but i have what i hope is a welcoming and open mind about it. in my later interactions with people not like myself, i always had the feeling of "what's the big deal?" if you want to get along with anyone, you have to keep your ears open and treat them with respect.