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Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
Mon May 19, 2014, 03:26 PM May 2014

Inside The Horrifying World of Gay Exorcisms



Stringfellow himself was subject to such an exorcism when he was in college and was still closeted.


“I was trying to get rid of my same-sex attractions,” he told me. “The person at the altar yelled so everyone could hear: ‘Demon of homosexuality! Come out of this young man!’ And he smacked me on my forehead to ‘slay me in the spirit.’ A friend had to get me up from the altar, pick me up, and get me back to my seat, because I was absolutely mortified. My secret had now been announced, proclaimed, to all of these individuals.”

Compared with other known gay exorcisms, Stringfellow’s experience was relatively peaceful. In 2009, Manifested Glory Ministries released a horrifying video that purported to show the exorcism of a gay 16-year-old boy. In the clip, parishioners scream at the boy and hold him on the ground as he writhes around in apparent agony and then vomits. Manifested Glory defended the exorcism, stating that the boy “was dressing like a woman and everything” and that “we believe a man should be with a woman and a woman should be with a man.” Numerous other survivors of exorcisms have come forward to tell similar horror stories.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/05/16/gay_exorcisms_are_horrifying.html?wpisrc=burger_bar

Homophobia and delusional beliefs in demonic possession. What could possibly go wrong?"
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Inside The Horrifying World of Gay Exorcisms (Original Post) Warren Stupidity May 2014 OP
:( shenmue May 2014 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #2
Perry DeAngelis' Top 10 Exorcisms Resulting in Injury or Death. longship May 2014 #3
They would all have just found some other excuse skepticscott May 2014 #5
Huh? longship May 2014 #6
He was paraphrasing one of the standard excuses made for this nonsense. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #8
I was afraid to click libodem May 2014 #4
Saan's Name, this shit still goes on? Prophet 451 May 2014 #7
Apparently 'some' people still believe in demonic possession. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #9
Everyone's faith looks batshit from the outside Prophet 451 May 2014 #10

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longship

(40,416 posts)
3. Perry DeAngelis' Top 10 Exorcisms Resulting in Injury or Death.
Mon May 19, 2014, 03:55 PM
May 2014

(Sadly, mostly death.)
Exorcism is a really bad idea, from any perspective, but especially when wrapped in an ideology which tolerates no counter evidence. The problem is that there is no other kind of exorcism.

From SGU Episode 54

Top 10 Exorcisms Resulting in Death or Injury:

10. In April 1994, Nicholas Sogunro of East Ham, East London, became convinced his fiancée was possessed by the Devil when she refused to marry him. Mr. Sogunro locked her is a bedroom, starved and beat her for 14 days, and force fed her communion bread and wine. After her death, Mr. Sagunro tried for 3 days to resurrect her, and then hid her body in the back of his church for a year. He was jailed for 6 years.

9. In January 1998, Charity Miranda, 17 years old of Sayville, Long Island, NY, was suffocated to death with a plastic bag by her mother and sisters after an unsuccessful attempt to exorcise her of demons. The women had recently embraced Santeria, which Charity resisted joining. When she developed the flu after resisting, her mother interpreted it as demonic possession and began the exorcism. Vivian Mairanda, the mother, was excused from a trial on the grounds of insanity, and will spend the rest of her life in a maximum-security psychiatric hospital.

8. In October 1993, Cheung Ho of Norwich England, believing her body had been invaded by spirits taking the form of snakes and worms, asked her brother to exorcise the demons. Mr. Chi, the brother, repeatedly stomped on her to drive out the demons, breaking ribs, lacerating her liver, and causing internal injuries. Mr. Chi was jailed for 5 years.

7. On December 8, 1993, Farida Patel of Ilford, East London, began displaying various signs of demonic possession, when problems with her husband’s immigration began to plague her. Her family called in an exorcist, Mouna Pai, who, along with Farida’s sister and brother, preformed an exorcism. Pai beat Farida with a plastic vacuum cleaner pipe and a walking stick for over five hours, interspersed with readings from the Koran. The attack was repeated for over four hours the following day until the woman expired. All 3 were found guilty of manslaughter, and spent from 3 to 5 years in jail.

6. In April 1997, Kira Canhoto of Kitchener, Ontario, was killed by her mother and grandmother during an exorcism. The women felt that the child was the victim of a demon, and tried to exorcise it by forcing Kira to drink vast quantities of water. The grandmother pleaded guilty to manslaughter, and was sentenced to 2 years in prison.

5. Also in April 1997, a busy month for exorcism, 5 year old Amy Burney of Staten Island, was killed by her grandmother and mother, during an attempt to exorcise a demon that they believed caused Amy to have tantrums. Not being satisfied with vast quantities of mere water, these good women tied Amy down, forced her to drink a mixture of ammonia, vinegar, cayenne pepper, black pepper, & olive oil. They taped her mouth shut to prevent her from spitting out the mixture, and she expired. Police charged the women with 2nd degree murder, and both were sentenced to 12 – 25 years.

4. In July 1996, 5 year old Breeann Spickard of Baldwin Park, Los Angeles was beaten to death during an exorcism preformed by her mother, and two of her friends. All 3 of the women, who were taking methamphetamines, held the girl down and whipped her with a cheeseboard for 2 hours, stripping away several layers of skin and eventually killing the child. All 3 women were convicted of murder.

3. In August 1994, Hoda and Abir, of Egypt, punched their mother to death. The daughters claimed their mother was possessed by a djinn, and said “incomprehensible things”. The daughters were sent to a state mental hospital.

2. In May, 1994, Lindsay and Janice Gibson were charged with killing their son. Janice had become convinced she was God, and had convinced her husband of this as well. Janice first tried to expel demons from her 2 year old daughter by beating her in the face for 10 minutes. When Janice tried to exorcise her husband’s boss, he called the authorities. The doctor refused to sign commitment papers requested by social services, as he felt she was just a religious fanatic. The next day, Janice, convinced her family and especially her 12-year-old son were surrounded by demons, fed then a hearty meal and thence forced them to vomit the just consumed food. She then kicked her son out of the house naked into the cold. Later, while her husband restrained the boy, Janice beat him repeatedly in the head with a concrete block. When police arrived, she shouted, “He’s already dead. We killed him, you stupid man, just like the first Jesus”. Mr. & Mrs Gibson were both found not guilty by reason of “folie a deux”, a rare psychiatric syndrome of psychosis, particularly a paranoid or delusional belief, that is transmitted from one individual to another.

1. In April 1996, Sommai Chaipanya of Udon Thiland agreed to a ritulastic beating to her head and genitala with a stingray tail by a Shaman to exorcise evil spirits. After the exorcism began, she changed her mind and fled, only to be abducted later by the Shaman who continued the ritual untl Ms Chiapanya’s death. The Shaman was charged with the murder.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
5. They would all have just found some other excuse
Mon May 19, 2014, 05:54 PM
May 2014

to kill those people. Religion had nothing to do with any of this.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
4. I was afraid to click
Mon May 19, 2014, 03:58 PM
May 2014

My trepidation was warranted. Heartbreaking as well as infuriating. I had a pretty good graphic but I don't want to cause offense to this group. ( think whacking a downed gay person with bibles)

Goddess love those young gay kids. I could hug them all.


My little brother had a friend from a fundamentalist family. He told me the family and the preacher sat on Beano, in the living room and chanted,"Rebuke*The*Devil*from*This*Boy"!!! And that was just for doing regular 7th grade mischief.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
9. Apparently 'some' people still believe in demonic possession.
Tue May 20, 2014, 01:13 PM
May 2014

I wonder where they got the idea for demons in the first place.

I'm sure it could happen to anyone, religious or not.



Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
10. Everyone's faith looks batshit from the outside
Tue May 20, 2014, 01:17 PM
May 2014

I believe in daemon "co-possession" (i.e. a daemon riding as a passenger to a controlling human psyche) but one would have thought that I was at least unusual in that belief.

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