Chaplain Demands Atheist Festival Be Canceled At Fort Bragg

[cleanhippie]

FORT BRAGG, NC – Chaplain (Captain) Chuck Williams wrote an open letter on Fort Bragg's Facebook page calling for the cancellation of on-post secular festival Rock Beyond Belief. Cpt. Williams claims, "It has now been made blatantly public by [event] organizers that part of this event will be... glorifying violence against people who possess a faith in God through the burning of churches. This is appalling!"

Fort Bragg estimates that 5,000 people will attend the all-day event. It was partially inspired by a controversial evangelical Christian event that targeted non-Christians for conversions. Rock Beyond Belief, to be held March 31, has no such conversion or "de-conversion" agenda. The festival aims to be a family-friendly affair including secular children’s activities grounded in science.

An organizer of the event, Justin Griffith said,

"It is possible that Cpt. Williams thinks that arson is a common hobby of atheists from misinformation he obtained from FOX News. Popular rock band Aiden’s lyrics were purposely taken out of context, making it look like a performer was encouraging the destruction of holy texts and buildings."

Aiden lead-singer, William Control, has repeatedly explained that the song ‘Hysteria’ was actually a condemnation of faith-on-faith violence and hatred. Though some of Aiden’s songs contain foul language, but ‘Hysteria’ does not. Festival organizers insist that all performers had already agreed to only play radio friendly songs.

Chaplain Williams attacked the Military Religious Freedom Foundation’s Mikey Weinstein and festival headliner Richard Dawkins as being

“known publicly for their caustic treatment of people of faith.”

Ironically, Mr. Weinstein is Jewish and litigates mainly for Christians.


http://www.examiner.com/atheism-in-national/chaplain-demands-atheist-festival-canceled-at-fort-bragg#ixzz1p6ySxpF8

[dmallind]

1. I'm sure the chaplain similarly censors all statements that atheists will burn for far longer

Since by definition a faith that includes a traditional hell (believed by 2/3 of all Americans - inescapably then the vast majority of Christians) and salvation by faith either alone or in concert with works, says that burning is our eternal destination thanks to their loving all-powerful father figure.

I really bet he campaigns for these somehow less appalling to him sentiments to be silenced.

EDIT Gosh I'm sorry - it's down now

In a survey released this summer by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, just 59 percent (COMMENT: JUST? Jesus fucking Christ that's a JUST?) of 35,000 respondents said they believe in a hell "where people who have led bad lives, and die without being sorry, are eternally punished." That's down from the 71 percent who said they believed in hell in a 2001 Gallup survey

So if we, absurdly, assume that ALL of America's 7% of non-Jewish non-Christian minority religionists believe in a hell like this, that leaves us 52%. Since 77% are Christian that means an absolute minimum of 52/77 or 67.5% of Christians must believe in an eternal torture in hell - and this fucker complains about some rock lyrics, as if any of them ever made any sense?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/117409/Easter-Smaller-Percentage-Americans-Christian.aspx

[msongs]

2. military chaplain should condemn his employer for violating multiple "commandments" instead nt

[humblebum]

3. Just more radical atheist anti-religious propaganda. Is there any religious group

they've left out?

[bongbong]

4. You forgot

You forgot your tag.

Oblig. joke. The priest told his congregation, as part of his diatribe against Buddhists, "Any religion without a hell isn't worth a damn!"

[rexcat]

5. Our dear friend Humblebum...

should be taken literally for he does not have the capacity for sarcasm. He embraces the words of Jesus as I have never seen before or hopefully after.

[cleanhippie]

6. Tsk tsk tsk. You are showing your hatred again.

[humblebum]

8. I could easily say the same, since it is a habit of yours. nt

[cleanhippie]

10. You easily say all kinds of nonsense, why stop now?

[rexcat]

16. How do you rate?

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I didn't even get a nibble from my post.

[cleanhippie]

17. He can't quit me.

We have such a long and loving history, you know.

[Jim Lane]

7. Is there any anti-religious atheist propaganda that you would NOT call "radical"?

Oh, and as to that loaded word "propaganda" -- is it propaganda when Christian missionaries try to persuade people to convert? Given that the OP states that this festival isn't aimed at conversions anyway, what qualifies it as "propaganda"?

[humblebum]

9. When the radical atheist groups have been targeting specific groups as

they have lately, I can think of no better word.

[Jim Lane]

13. Is it also radical when Christians target specific groups, like Muslims or atheists or Jews?

And is that propaganda, too?

Or are you just throwing around scare words as a way of saying, "I disagree with what these people are saying or doing so I want to try to smear them and see what sticks"?

Oh, and since you've now introduced yet another vague term, what constitutes "targeting"? Do you mean that if I say "All monotheistic religion is false because there is no god," that's OK, but if I say "Christianity is false," then that's radical? and that if it's radical it's evil?

The opposite of radical is superficial. I, for one, try not to be superficial.

[Goblinmonger]

15. Just throwing around scare words.

That's my take, anyway.

[cleanhippie]

18. Scare words, for sure.

Thats all he has. There is no substance.

[muriel_volestrangler]

11. So, you're falling in line with the Fox News view, are you? Above that of the garrison commander?

Doesn't the company you keep bother you?

[dmallind]

12. Hmm lessee

One atheist rock act: We should burn buildings

67.5% of all Christians: nonbelievers should personally burn for all eternity

Which is the more radical and anti-other propaganda?

[EvolveOrConvolve]

14. How, pray tell, is this "radical"?

I'm interested to know why you think of this as "radical" or even "propaganda".

[PassingFair]

19. He's only using "radical" since he lost the "militant" battle.

[humblebum]

20. Since the term "militant" is being used more and more these days, I

would say the "battle" as you call it, is still being fought.

[PassingFair]

21. Most believers in this forum have dropped it.

You keep on slugging away though...

[humblebum]

22. Yes, I noticed that censorship is becoming more common here, at least towards some.

In DU 2, to label someone as a hater was not allowed, now totally OK, at least for some.

[cleanhippie]

23. Bwahahahahaha!

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[humblebum]

24. No doubt a case of projection as is evidenced by the

prevalence of anti-religious threads and posts in the religious group.

[cleanhippie]

25. I find it amusing how you parrot whatever anyone else says to you.

It's like dealing with my schoolmates back in 2nd grade on the playground: "I know you are, but what am I?" and "No, YOU are a poopy face, not me!"


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[humblebum]

26. The evidence of projection is all too obvious, and a strong case

for avoidance can also be made.

[cleanhippie]

28. Glad you are finally acknowledging that fact about your posts.

You are really making progress. Well done.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

27. So, again, how is it "radical"?

I know you're around because I see the pissing contests you're taking part in.

How is this "radical" or "propaganda"?