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Related: About this forumPolitics of American churches & religions in one graph
http://tobingrant.religionnews.com/2014/08/27/politics-american-churches-religions-one-graph/Mapping out the politics of religions and churches in the United States Created by Corner of Church & State, and RNS blog
What are the political positions of religions and churches in America? This new graph maps the ideologies of 44 different religious groups using data comes from Pews Religious Landscape survey. This survey included 32,000 respondents. It asked very specific questions on religion that allow us to find out the precise denomination, church, or religion of each person.
How to read the graph
Each circle represents a denomination, church, or religion. There are several circles for types of Americans with no religion: self-identified atheist, self-identified agnostic, and those who say that have no religion in particular.
The size of the circle represents the relative size of the religion in the United States. For very small groups, I put them in groups with other similar churches. In these cases, the circle represents collections of similar churches, e.g., nondenominational evangelicals, all Baptists who arent in one of the larger denominations, or all Hindus. The decision for how specific to make the circle was based on the size of the group in the survey.
The color of the circle indicates the religious tradition of the group: evangelical Protestant (historically white), Mainline Protestant (historically white), historically black Protestant, Catholic, a catch-all category for other Christian groups, all other religions, and those with no religion. (yes, there are some disagreements about whether some groups should be coded as evangelical (e.g., Seventh Day Adventist) or even Christian or not (e.g., Jehovahs Witness). We can debate these decisions in a future post.
- See more at: http://tobingrant.religionnews.com/2014/08/27/politics-american-churches-religions-one-graph/#sthash.ewezke5m.dpuf
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)I'm not surprised to see Catholics going either way; with the larger majority left leaning. There are the Paul Ryan types, of course... But anecdotally, there are also lots of very Catholic towns/small cities in my state whose voter registrations are overwhelmingly Dem. Most of the folks in these towns are of French Canadian origin.
Anabaptists don't surprise me either. But what I find interesting about them, (and I'm speaking of the Amish/Mennonite types in particular) is how they manage to live with very little outside government involvement... Nearly everything about their way of life is communal. No one family would be able to survive without the others. At least not very easily. But together, the do remarkably well. On work/financial matters especially, their way of living closely resembles Marxian economic structures. Their society is not at all the rugged individualist, anti-government Libertarian "utopia" one might think it would be.
Off topic somewhat, but- a couple of months ago, I came across an excellent documentary the BBC did on an Amish family who broke with tradition by allowing the crew to film them. It is titled 'The Amish: A Secret Life'. Have you seen it? It was so interesting, that curiosity drove me on to find more YouTube videos about the Amish in general.
It is well worth the time (in my opinion) if you can spare it:
Sorry to have gotten a little off track here...
Brettongarcia
(2,262 posts)Where the culture is actually going....
It's the secular, not religious trend?
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)What do you mean by religious moral enforcement- in this context?
ETA- Never mind, I see what you are saying now. Yes, that does appear to be the case, overall.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)(slightly above centre, I suppose), not 'left leaning'.
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)arguably, a left of center economic stance...
In my opinion, most people, religious or not, tend to gravitate toward a political ideology that better reflects their economic interests. Remember Bill Clinton's "it's the economy, stupid" remark?... That continues to hold true among a majority of RCs in my state. Nationwide, as the chart demonstrates, slightly more than 50% of RCs also lean in that direction.
Additionally, while there will always be exceptions, most Maine RCs lean toward a JFK-style, social justice political ideology, while staying moderate and sometimes even left leaning on 'morality' issues. They would fall onto the 'less [government] involvement protecting morality' side of that chart. My congressman Mike Michaud is a perfect example of what I mean. He is a gay, pro-choice RC, who hopefully will be elected Governor come November. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Michaud
I agree that nationally, the circle is slightly above center on 'morality'. However, in my humble opinion, economic issues trump that slight advantage politically speaking, thus making Catholics left leaning overall.
Most Catholics in my state are left leaning Dems, but if anyone has stats on Catholics nationwide, (by party affiliation or left/right self identification) I'd love to see them...
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)You can see where the centre lines marked 50% are, can't you?
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)and slightly to the left too, although less obviously so than above center.
My point still stands.
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)10%- Independent
9%- Don't know/refused
According to: Pew Research- Religion and Public Life Project
http://religions.pewforum.org/portraits
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)They're in the centre, within the margin of error.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I didn't find any big surprises, but had never seen it laid out like this before.
I would love to watch this documentary. I can't stream right now, but will put it on my list for when I can.
Thanks!
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)Even for me, as a believer... That family is waaaay out there on the upper right side of the chart.
Otoh, there is something strangely appealing about the simplicity of their lives. Also, it is a very well done documentary. I loved the music in it too.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I have spent a little time in areas of the country where they reside, but the depth of their privacy is pretty astounding. I felt as if they tolerated my presence, but that was about it.
Documentaries like this are top of my list. Will definitely save it.
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)You want smaller government, but more government 'protection of morality'...
Bwuh?
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)outcasting, boycotting - that sort of thing. Like refusing service, or employment, to gay people. That, to them, is 'religious freedom'.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)I was thinking more of the 'of course government can regulate what goes on in your bedroom' santorum-types.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)More of their own enforcement, not government enforcement.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)They long for the good old days circa 1500 C.E. They are our version of the Taliban.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)I can live with that
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Fascinating deltas in similar groups in this chart. Not just on our end of the spectrum, either.
rug
(82,333 posts)carolinayellowdog
(3,247 posts)I'm in! Seriously DO feel more at home among agnostics who like to sing hymns than among atheists who hate all trappings of religion.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)The UU's are really attracting a lot of liberals and progressives these days, whether they are believers or non-believers.
Htom Sirveaux
(1,242 posts)and the interdependent web of existence!