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Related: About this forumCatholic Schools Are Brazenly Firing Pregnant Lesbian Teachers
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119323/lesbian-catholic-teachers-fired-over-pregnancies-allege-descriminationBut two weeks ago, during a ten-minute meeting with two school administrators, she was told she either needed to resign or be fired from a job she had wanted since she was eleven years old.
According to school administrators, Webb, a Catholic, is not a role model for students. Marian High School, of which I'm a graduate, is a parochial school, and every teacher must sign a contract that contains a very broad morality clause that stipulates: Teacher agrees, in the performance of her/his services hereunder that she/he will not publicly engage in actions, or endorse actions or beliefs contrary to the teachings and standards of the Roman Catholic faith and morality.
Marian High School, which refused to publicly comment for this article, isnt the first school whose Catholic institutional identity conflicted with the lived realities of its teachers. Butte Central Catholic Schools in Montana was sued last month by Shaela Evenson, a partnered lesbian and a literature and physical education teacher there for nine years, who was fired in January while pregnant with their first child. In 2010, Christa Dias, also a partnered lesbian, was fired from two schools in the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Cincinnati under similar circumstances. The computer technology teacher was awarded more than $170,000 last year by an Ohio jury that ruled the archdiocese had discriminated against her.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)One might even think that those who support and defend such an institution are themselves homophobic and misogynistic. Why else would they fund such a horrific institution?
I'm sure one of those defenders will come along in ...3...2...
edhopper
(33,587 posts)and support and defend them, as long as you personally don't agree with the bad things they do.
Also because God.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)are the ones who suggest that perhaps those individuals should consider a different church, one more in line with their values.
How dare they?
Leontius
(2,270 posts)If the answer is no, why do you still have US citizenship should you not renounce it in the name of a higher more perfect more moral nation that you can support and defend ?
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Are you honestly suggesting that the act of changing the building you visit on Sunday mornings is the exact same thing as emigrating?
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)my cable subscription.
This government, for a fee, is supposed to protect my rights, and the sandbox within which I work and play.
If I can find a better deal somewhere else, I'm out. There are hurdles to that, such as there are leaving Comcast, but it isn't insurmountable.
Leontius
(2,270 posts)not leaving over what you see as wrongs or outright harm to others by this government.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)I haven't given up my naïve hope of 'change within the system', like the giant idiot I am.
Leontius
(2,270 posts)So they stay.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)And when I *suggest* they *consider* finding a church that is in keeping with their values instead, some folks here climb my frame about it.
Leontius
(2,270 posts)So there's that to consider.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)"And if someone supports legal recognition of SSM AND also belongs to a church like the RCC, I don't think it's wrong to suggest they re-evaluate whether they are in the right place."
That was one of my more diplomatic, trying-not-to-be-a-douchebag days.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)edhopper
(33,587 posts)As we grow more and more into an oligarchy.
But the difficulty of moving abroad, being allowed to stay and earning a living in the countries I would go to make it very hard.
Much harder than traveling a few extra blocks to another church.
rug
(82,333 posts)In the last several weeks, alumnae have created a private Facebook group with more than 2,000 members in support of the couple, Olivia Reichert and Christina Gambaro, urging supporters to call and write to Cor Jesu leaders and voice their concerns.
http://ncronline.org/news/faith-parish/firing-lesbian-teachers-st-louis-catholic-girls-school-draws-outcry
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)Intellectually, I understand the notion of changing from within. It's not a pragmatic thing, is it?
rug
(82,333 posts)At one point the Pope denounced usury, allegedly on scriptural grounds. The argument was reframed. The New Testament does not speak authoritatively on labor law.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)The argument is whether or not lesbian women should be classroom teachers, isn't it?
rug
(82,333 posts)The efforts of these women advances that.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)Please excuse my impatience. In a perfect world, it wouldn't take so long to acknowledge the obvious.
gtar100
(4,192 posts)A highly dedicated teacher is about to give birth and the church/school thinks it's appropriate to fire her.
I know it's just me because who am I to denounce doctrine and large institutions with such "mature" people running them, but in my mind I think these people just need to grow up and stop acting like grown up babies.
People are gay or straight or somewhere in between; if they'd just open their eyes they'd see that a person's sexual orientation is *not* what makes anyone good or bad.
Generally, that has more to do with how much hate and intolerance one has... along with greediness, selfishness, etc. I'm thinking of the real deadly sins; the kind that make us suck at being human. Who somebody likes to make love to, if nobody is getting hurt, is not one of them.
The phrase "two consenting adults" should make a lot of sense in this context.