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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 11:23 AM Oct 2014

Ebola and the US: The American Roots of Liberia's Trauma

http://religiondispatches.org/ebola-and-us-the-american-roots-of-liberias-trauma/

BY PETER LAARMAN OCTOBER 14, 2014



Does it matter that the great tide of Christian perfectionism bursting forth in early 19th century America included a touch of ethnic/racial cleansing? Right-wing ranters like Limbaugh say that it does because they worry that liberal guilt regarding Liberia might cause us to foolishly admit more of “them”—the Ebola- contaminated ones—to our homeland hospitals.

I say that it matters because, as a practical matter, our shared history with Liberia ought to make it possible for us to be more strategically helpful in the Ebola crisis rather than pretending that Liberia is a place we know nothing about. To engage with an aggressive disease-containment plan in Liberia should be more a matter of realism than guilt, although a certain amount of guilt is warranted in this case.

Liberia owes its existence to Christian perfectionism gone badly wrong. It owes its existence and the primary arc of its history to an ambitious enterprise called the American Colonization Society.

A pivotal early figure was an energetic Congregationalist named Samuel John Mills. Mills was a prime mover in the creation of the American Bible Society in 1816 and also in the formation of the Colonization Society the following year. In 1818 Mills made sail for Africa to spy out the territory for the resettlement of Black people.

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Ebola and the US: The American Roots of Liberia's Trauma (Original Post) cbayer Oct 2014 OP
You must be on 'global ignore' edgineered Oct 2014 #1
Quite a few people have her on ignore, from what I've seen. trotsky Oct 2014 #2
I'm just a small cynic in a sea of hypocrites edgineered Oct 2014 #3
You should. trotsky Oct 2014 #5
A moment of self reflection is in order here. edgineered Oct 2014 #8
Wow, great news - I found some company! edgineered Oct 2014 #10
Lol! rug Oct 2014 #13
Bummer, that link doesn't work for me. trotsky Oct 2014 #14
Here, let me help you edgineered Oct 2014 #15
Oh, thanks much! trotsky Oct 2014 #16
Asking if I agree or disagree with the sentiment of a single person edgineered Oct 2014 #17
Certainly, there's a whole thread of them. trotsky Oct 2014 #19
Quite surprised to see your acknowledgment of edgineered Oct 2014 #21
Massive changes indeed. trotsky Oct 2014 #23
It's not cherry picking if you don't know of the agenda edgineered Oct 2014 #24
Ah, did you attend the synod? trotsky Oct 2014 #26
I'm jealous. beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #18
I love my fan club! trotsky Oct 2014 #20
I don't even know what you did wrong. beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #27
I don't know what my crime is either. trotsky Oct 2014 #28
I just took off my socks and now something stinks. What could it be? Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #22
see reply #10, incorrectly replied to myself edgineered Oct 2014 #12
Yes, to presume someone's motive is dishonest, isn't it, trotsky? rug Oct 2014 #4
I was going to post something similar but decided it wasn't worth the bother beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #6
Not flame baity enough, lol. cbayer Oct 2014 #29
“Americo-Liberians” rug Oct 2014 #7
I automatically flush anybody skepticscott Oct 2014 #9
Ask a Liberian. rug Oct 2014 #11
To be fair it's possible for someone to not have heard about a 70% mortality rate and Leontius Oct 2014 #25

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
1. You must be on 'global ignore'
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 06:45 PM
Oct 2014

Otherwise one would expect thundering applause, not crickets.

Never mind, I forgot that only negative responses are allowed.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
2. Quite a few people have her on ignore, from what I've seen.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 08:27 PM
Oct 2014

I can certainly understand why.

But some topics just don't get many responses. Could be that people click on the thread and see such a gigantic image inserted in the post and don't want to waste the bandwidth and effort scrolling past it. Could be there's nothing they feel they need to say.

I don't think it should be viewed as an opportunity to bash others for what you presume their motivations are.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
8. A moment of self reflection is in order here.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 08:38 PM
Oct 2014

I'll go first. Excuse me for a few moments while I attempt to look at myself as others see me. I'll be back.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
15. Here, let me help you
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 09:17 PM
Oct 2014

108. It was a PSA announcement about "clutter". We all know that.

Everyone knows trotsky would never chastise anyone. Especially someone he'd heard whispers about having him on ignore. Makes one wonder about those who pray and expect an answer.

Reply How am I supposed to know? trotsky 8:25 AM Religion
Reply You should really stop with that kind of shit, cbayer. trotsky Yesterday Religion
Reply No one said that, cbayer. trotsky Yesterday Religion
Reply No surprise. trotsky Yesterday Religion
Reply Oh I see. trotsky Friday Religion
Reply Why can't it be? trotsky Friday Religion
Reply What denomination were you raised in, cbayer? n/t trotsky Sep 23 Religion
Reply You mean kinda like you do with okasha? trotsky Sep 19 Religion
Reply Quit dragging your personal fights into this group, cbayer. n/t trotsky Sep 8 Religion
Reply I really don't understand how politics works in cbayer's perfect world. trotsky Sep 8 Religion
Reply I have an issue with liberals who oppose reproductive choice. trotsky Sep 5 Religion
Reply Please cbayer, for the love of Koresh, start heeding your own words. trotsky Sep 4 Religion
Reply Once again cbayer, there's a huge flaw in your logic. trotsky Sep 3 Religion
Reply okasha's lack of civility was one of the major reasons she isn't a host of this group today. trotsky Sep 2 Religion
Reply What straw man are you attacking now, cbayer? trotsky Aug 29 Religion
Reply Really, cbayer? trotsky Aug 29 Religion
Reply When cbayer declares something can be discussed, then it can be discussed. trotsky Aug 29 Religion
Reply Go back to what cbayer said. It's a direct negation of her claim. trotsky Aug 22 Religion
Reply Seems like a cheap shot, cbayer. trotsky Aug 22 Religion
Reply Well, cbayer's answer to that seems to be that... trotsky Aug 20 Religion
Reply "Sorry that you are not." trotsky Aug 20 Religion
Reply The point is, cbayer, those quotes exist. trotsky Aug 20 Religion
Reply No one knows who alerted on you. trotsky Aug 20 Religion
Reply Similar question to you, cbayer. trotsky Aug 19 Religion
Reply Let's start by agreeing that accusing others of supporting or proposing genocide is unacceptable. trotsky Aug 15 Religion
Reply Ask cbayer - she's the decider. n/t trotsky Aug 14 Religion
Reply No, cbayer, none of us evil atheists are aware of that. trotsky Aug 12 Religion
Reply "So while we clearly have a whiner"??? trotsky Aug 12 Religion
Reply The real problem is why religion is powerful enough to be used as a weapon, cbayer. trotsky Jul 31 Religion
Reply FFS, cbayer!!! trotsky Jul 30 Religion
Reply The reason why this is such an important concept, cbayer, as many people keep trying to point out... trotsky Jul 30 Religion
Reply The fuss is about the hatred and stigma attached to the word "atheist," cbayer. trotsky Jul 30 Religion
Reply Well, thanks for the flamebait, cbayer. trotsky Jul 30 Religion
Reply cbayer, this is really dishonest. trotsky Jul 28 Religion
Reply And if it can be examined, then it ceases to be supernatural... trotsky Jul 27 Religion
Reply Make sure to keep labeling those you don't like as "the other," cbayer. trotsky Jul 24 Religion
Reply Right. We should probably assume he's an atheist until proven otherwise. trotsky Jul 23 Religion
Reply "Does someone need a nap?" trotsky Jul 22 Religion
Reply Actually, cbayer, you yourself made the argument that an act of mutilation... trotsky Jul 21 Religion
Reply Just as we Democrats also try to convert. trotsky Jul 21 Religion
Reply Oh yes, extremism is extremism, cbayer. trotsky Jul 18 Religion
Reply "psychotic person who had a religious delusion and must, therefore, represent all of religion" trotsky Jul 2014 Religion
Reply It's also clear what he meant about being an atheist. trotsky Jul 2014 Religion
Reply "They do leave that little crack in the door, though." trotsky Jul 2014 Religion
Reply "I know that it pisses some people off, but that doesn't invalidate it." trotsky Jul 2014 Religion
Reply Your "both sides are the same" shtick has worn so thin, cbayer, it's like wet tissue paper. trotsky Jul 2014 Religion
Reply Why do you persist with that horrible straw man, cbayer? trotsky Jun 2014 Religion
Reply Considering how many people you've played it on, cbayer, trotsky Jun 2014 Religion
Reply Exactly. trotsky Jun 2014 Religion
Reply But cbayer, why the need to praise and single out belief or even non-belief when it comes to... trotsky Jun 2014 Religion
Reply Sure context counts. trotsky Jun 2014 Religion
Reply What exactly do you want, cbayer? trotsky Jun 2014 Religion
Reply cbayer, you do realize that contentious discussions can be held in this group... trotsky Jun 2014 Religion
Reply If stamp collectors made a point of having buildings erected specifically to congregate... trotsky Jun 2014 Religion
Reply "will not be forgiven" - What do you suppose that means for us atheists, cbayer? n/t trotsky Jun 2014 Religion
Reply cbayer, YOU are the one so intent on creating teams. trotsky Jun 2014 Religion
Reply cbayer, if you haven't noticed, this is the Religion group. trotsky Jun 2014 Religion
Reply Try not to take it personally. trotsky Jun 2014 Religion
Reply Yeah, for someone who spends an awfully lot of time chiding others... trotsky Jun 2014 Religion
Reply The thing is, cbayer, it's not binary like you seem to think it is. trotsky Jun 2014 Religion
Reply To say you've never seen that is a little hard to believe, cbayer. trotsky Jun 2014 Religion
Reply It is very nice to see some even-handedness from you, cbayer. trotsky May 2014 Religion
Reply Hmm trotsky May 2014 Religion
Reply You are correct, cbayer. trotsky May 2014 Religion
Reply I don't think misrepresenting a group of people like you do helps at all, trotsky May 2014 Religion
Reply No, cbayer, you don't. trotsky May 2014 Religion
Reply People like that really do exist, cbayer. trotsky May 2014 Religion
Reply Flinging rude, false accusations does indeed touch a nerve in most people, cbayer. trotsky May 2014 Religion
Reply "not about religion at all" trotsky May 2014 Religion
Reply Why can't it be both? trotsky May 2014 Religion
Reply I dunno man, I have done a few quick searches on there... trotsky May 2014 Religion
Reply And by continually making comments like that, trotsky May 2014 Religion
Reply It's a completely stupid comparison, cbayer. trotsky May 2014 Religion
Reply cbayer, you routinely chastise others for making things into competitions... trotsky May 2014 Religion
Reply As is your "belief" that religion does more good than harm. trotsky May 2014 Religion
Reply Put your own house in order before you start lecturing others, cbayer. trotsky Apr 2014 Religion
Reply "I've also had times when I wished I was more mediocre" trotsky Apr 2014 Religion
Reply Looks like that post went over your head. trotsky Apr 2014 Religion
Reply Er, did you? trotsky Apr 2014 Religion
Reply I think it's a silly request. trotsky Apr 2014 Religion
Reply "Young-earth creationism, a tiny fringe movement within Christianity" trotsky Apr 2014 Religion
Reply Wow, that's a lot of malarkey to concentrate in one post. trotsky Apr 2014 Religion
Reply You are the one who brought up the topic of "hatred" of cbayer and her father. trotsky Apr 2014 Religion
Reply It would be beneficial to tell the entire story concerning cbayer's father... trotsky Apr 2014 Religion
Reply Quite honestly, it's to be expected. trotsky Apr 2014 Religion
Reply No, it's about the inconsistency. trotsky Apr 2014 Religion
Reply Of course some might say that poring over someone's recent posting history... trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply You have posted your opinion. Thanks. trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply Yup, I'm with you. trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply That's rather judgmental of you, cbayer. trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply Should be very interesting to see some of the responses here. trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply Well yeah, he kinda did. trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply Actually, cbayer... trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply Many secular groups have been doing the same thing. trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply Honestly, cbayer, that is a big load of malarkey. trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply The most important takeaway, cbayer, is what we should do when they conflict. trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply I am disappointed that you continue to hurl outrageous charges like that at others, cbayer. trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply I hope one day you feel comfortable joining us, cbayer. trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply Congratulations. trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply You're not an atheist, because you've said that label doesn't apply to you. trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply The museum's mission statement: trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply The thing is, cbayer, few of them even understand it's bigotry. trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply Consistency has never been her strong suit. trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply Oh, of course, that's EXACTLY what others are saying. trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply Well cbayer is obviously a fan, AND she's a fan of anyone who sticks it to the... trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply Score one for cbayer and her team! trotsky Mar 2014 Religion
Reply Because they are doing it according to their religious beliefs. trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply Time to bring this out again. trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply Okey doke. trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply I would note that from the excerpt it does not appear the senators are actually backtracking at all. trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply Nice insults, cbayer. trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply When people like cbayer put forth their agenda, it is important to note that... trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply Well, I guess the important thing is that you get to scold MD... trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply You can't force your definitions on anyone, cbayer. trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply Hitchens did not have that inability, cbayer. trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply Every Christian takes at least part of the bible literally, cbayer. trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply Welcome to the atheist community, cbayer. n/t trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply So cbayer, what do you think would be a good compromise in this situation? trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply How do you define knowledge, cbayer? trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply There was no distortion of what you said, cbayer. trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply Didn't think you meant me. Was wondering if anyone had called for it at all. trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply You do realize, cbayer, that religious bigots don't believe they are engaging in... trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply Perhaps your quest is just as doomed, cbayer. trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply Yet you kicked off the aggression and accusatory words. trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply Some incredible generalization and broad-brushing there, cbayer. trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply Try the very low end of that range, cbayer. trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply That is indeed a strange result for an atheist, cbayer. n/t trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply There you go again. trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply But that is not what cbayer is saying. trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply Why do you perpetuate and reinforce such tired stereotypes, cbayer? trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply How closed is your mind to Republican ideas, cbayer? trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply I appreciate you posting nice things about atheism, cbayer. trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply That's actually a quite common sentiment. trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply One thing we definitely don't see is these folks going "further into their caves." trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply I guess I really don't understand your selective hypocrisy on this, cbayer. trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply And you know what, cbayer? trotsky Feb 2014 Religion
Reply OK, you realize that's not the same as what was said in the OP or claimed by cbayer, right? n/t trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply Perhaps you would be willing to provide more details? trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply No, apparently this crusade means far more to you, cbayer. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply But you're the one telling others that your definitions can't be challenged, cbayer. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply "Atheism indicates a disbelief or denial." trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply Please stop trying to tell me, an atheist, what I think. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply Ah, you mean like you use the label "anti-theist" to marginalize others and suit your agenda! trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply You don't get to define atheism, cbayer. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply Why do you get to laugh at someone else's beliefs, cbayer? n/t trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply There are literally millions of Americans, cbayer... trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply Nope, I guess a full one third of the US population is mentally ill. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply Your own husband called it "religious nuttery," cbayer. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply This is why, cbayer, when you make your comments about "teams" and "points"... trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply Very true, cbayer. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply Yeah, I don't get the points thing either. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply Their reasons were good, but their actions were illegal. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply What is your obsession with "points," cbayer? trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply Think about that one a little bit more, okasha. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply Just because you have your own interpretation doesn't make everyone else wrong, cbayer. n/t trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply That would be a call out, cbayer. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply Thanks for that. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply LMFAO! trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply OK, I see now that you don't even care about what was posted right in front of you. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply There you are wrong, cbayer. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply The only way you can maintain that is if you have the ability to read minds. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply I've thought some more, and your analogy can even be kicked up a notch or two. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply But cbayer, you've already raised the bar higher than that. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply If you were content with leaving things at that, there wouldn't be a problem. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply There are also other behaviors that have been common throughout human history. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply Because, YET AGAIN, I will point out to you, cbayer... trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply Not my fault you've gone past a 180, past a 360, trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply But you don't know that for sure. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply Are you sure about that? trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply But who are you to question their religious beliefs, cbayer? trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply ONCE AGAIN, cbayer... trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply I know this comes as a shock to you, cbayer, but sometimes... trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply Yep, name-calling really helps discussion, cbayer. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply Luke Coppen, the author of the piece, is the editor of the Catholic Herald. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply You are absolutely correct, cbayer. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply Please, cbayer, stop with the stupid "scoring points" nonsense. trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply LOL trotsky Jan 2014 Religion
Reply That a god is responsible, directly or indirectly, for the very existence of the universe... trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply I think a very good place to start, cbayer, trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply So, cbayer, in your wonderful, open, tolerant world... trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply That is a very interesting claim, cbayer. trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply Pathetic, cbayer. trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply Hooray for your crusade against those you deem "anti-theist," cbayer. trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply FFS, no one has claimed you aren't permitted do any of those things, cbayer. trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply People who are anti-choice aren't welcome on DU. trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply Yeah, and comparing your behavior in both threads clearly indicates that YOU trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply Kinda like you do with "New Atheists," huh cbayer? trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply Amazing. trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply Once again trotting out that weak sauce? trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply You didn't address a single thing A_o_R said, cbayer. trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply There is a huge, giant, gaping hole in the logic you're trying to use to bash atheists, cbayer. trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply Because that's an underhanded trick designed to circumvent the Constitution. trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply Opportunities are then being squandered by the other groups mentioned as well, cbayer. trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply Words mean things, cbayer. trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply So basically you admit he lied, trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply Well, cbayer thinks it's a fantastic article. trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply Just checking in. trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply Here's something for you to do, cbayer. trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply What's your opinion, cbayer? trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply Once again, as has been pointed out to you, trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply Way to score one for your team, cbayer! trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply Is accusing someone of advocating genocide a civil or uncivil action, cbayer? trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply FFS cbayer, tone down the rhetoric. trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply I think you missed the point entirely. trotsky Dec 2013 Religion
Reply I don't know how it sits with MoL but it's hilarious to me. trotsky Nov 2013 Religion
Reply You know, it's this kind of parting shot: trotsky Nov 2013 Religion
Reply Great, thanks for your opinion. trotsky Nov 2013 Religion
Reply Ah, but no one said anything about *making* Christianity extinct. trotsky Nov 2013 Religion
Reply What cbayer believes or doesn't believe... trotsky Nov 2013 Religion
Reply You've said as much about atheists. trotsky Nov 2013 Religion
Reply What's there to understand, cbayer? trotsky Nov 2013 Religion
Reply LOL trotsky Nov 2013 Religion
Reply Oh, I'm pretty sure there are some who would beg to differ. trotsky Nov 2013 Religion
Reply My Koresh, it is just jaw-dropping how little you've thought this through, cbayer. trotsky Nov 2013 Religion
Reply No wonder you liked this. trotsky Nov 2013 Religion
Reply I am glad you hate straw men, cbayer. trotsky Nov 2013 Religion
Reply If the church claims to have revealed truth about god(s)... trotsky Nov 2013 Religion
Reply My post #25 is a reply to #11, which was written by cbayer. n/t trotsky Nov 2013 Religion
Reply LOL trotsky Oct 2013 Religion
Reply cbayer can criticize and mock whatever beliefs she wants. trotsky Oct 2013 Religion
Reply Again, you seem to be shifting the argument. trotsky Oct 2013 Religion
Reply To anyone without a belief in god, they are equally ridiculous. trotsky Oct 2013 Religion
Reply I'm calling bullshit. trotsky Oct 2013 Religion
Reply What's disappointing is that this is the same message many of us have been saying here... trotsky Oct 2013 Religion
Reply Battling with the religious right is indeed what needs to be done! trotsky Oct 2013 Religion
Reply Could you explain, please, when exactly it's OK to mock someone's religious beliefs? trotsky Oct 2013 Religion
Reply Your perspective, that all faiths and religions are equal and valid... trotsky Oct 2013 Religion
Reply What kind of extremists are responsible for the violent events, cbayer? trotsky Oct 2013 Religion
Reply LMAO trotsky Oct 2013 Religion
Reply You are completely and utterly wrong, cbayer. trotsky Oct 2013 Religion
Reply Wow. trotsky Oct 2013 Religion
Reply This stuff is so tiresome. trotsky Oct 2013 Religion
Reply And yet if it were just about money, they'd carry every holiday. trotsky Oct 2013 Religion
Reply When was the last time you posted a positive story about Richard Dawkins, cbayer? trotsky Oct 2013 Religion
Reply For someone you despise and wish "would go the way of the dinosaurs..." trotsky Sep 2013 Religion
Reply "As long as someone's beliefs don't impinge on the rights of others or damages them in other ways" trotsky Sep 2013 Religion
Reply But it's not just that first sentence, cbayer. trotsky Sep 2013 Religion
Reply Well, you can't prove he's wrong. trotsky Sep 2013 Religion
Reply You know, the rest of what you said was just so offensive I didn't even notice this part: trotsky Sep 2013 Religion
Reply What exactly would satisfy you, cbayer? trotsky Sep 2013 Religion
Reply Wow, to end up blaming the victim here is really pathetic. trotsky Sep 2013 Religion
Reply You think creationists are "a bunch of dumbasses," cbayer. trotsky Sep 2013 Religion
Reply I'm glad to see this evolution in your position, cbayer. trotsky Sep 2013 Religion
Reply cbayer, to be quite honest, the #1 offender I see in this group... trotsky Sep 2013 Religion

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
16. Oh, thanks much!
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 09:24 PM
Oct 2014

Yes, I certainly do post a lot in this forum. Some folks I've put on ignore posted a lot to me as well! However I don't obsess over that, certainly not enough to go and post out-of-context search results in order to smear and attack someone.

But then I've also never expressed sentiments that women employed by Catholics who refuse to provide contraceptive coverage should just "go to any drugstore and buy some rubbers. That's what most of us do." What a sexist, insensitive thing to say. I was shocked to read it on a progressive website. Do you agree or disagree with that sentiment?

And by chance, do you enjoy sailing?

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
17. Asking if I agree or disagree with the sentiment of a single person
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 09:30 PM
Oct 2014

in a world of billions is a far reaching attempt to marginalize me. Knowing what other statements were made by this individual, and in what context would help me to understand his overall message. Give me some help, I did help you see what you could not, didn't I?

In the Navy we called it steaming. I'm a shellback, been from Norway to Thailand, in amazing places I've had amazing times and met wonderful amazing people. I enjoyed steaming.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
19. Certainly, there's a whole thread of them.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 09:36 PM
Oct 2014

You can judge for yourself using the context: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1218122885

Thankfully I am spared from the worst of that thread due to the Ignore feature, but I made sure to save the link because of that individual's history of abusive behavior. I am far from the only person to have been on the receiving end of his viciousness, unfortunately!

Glad to hear you enjoy the sea. I'm sure you've met lots of interesting people that way!

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
21. Quite surprised to see your acknowledgment of
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 09:43 PM
Oct 2014

changes in the church AND providing proof of it, April to October is only 6 months, seems quick for such a large organization.

Please accept my apologies.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
23. Massive changes indeed.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 09:48 PM
Oct 2014

Back then, the pope stated his opposition to marriage equality.

Just this week, the synod confirmed it as the official position of the RCC.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
24. It's not cherry picking if you don't know of the agenda
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 09:51 PM
Oct 2014

going into 2015. I assume you don't, so I won't say you're cherry picking.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
26. Ah, did you attend the synod?
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 09:57 PM
Oct 2014

Surely you must have, since you seem to indicate you know what that agenda is. Congrats! Hope you had a great time.

I love the instant rapport we seem to have. As if we have friends in common - or perhaps have even met before!

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
20. I love my fan club!
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 09:42 PM
Oct 2014

That's why I have to ignore them - their adulation would certainly go straight to my head if I saw it!

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
27. I don't even know what you did wrong.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 10:06 PM
Oct 2014

Hell I could see if you were aiming to piss someone off but seriously, wtf?

It's not like cbayer and her entourage regularly post thundering applause in any of our threads; we certainly don't expect it.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
28. I don't know what my crime is either.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 10:21 PM
Oct 2014

Looking at the subject line of those posts, it appears I'm just asking questions.

I didn't realize that was so offensive. I suppose it might be, for those with an agenda they don't want questioned.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
22. I just took off my socks and now something stinks. What could it be?
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 09:47 PM
Oct 2014

I give up. You show up here armed for bear. WTF?

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
12. see reply #10, incorrectly replied to myself
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 08:55 PM
Oct 2014

in my moment of self reflection.

What did you find in yourself?

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
6. I was going to post something similar but decided it wasn't worth the bother
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 08:34 PM
Oct 2014

If someone thinks cbayer deserves "thundering applause" for a cut-and-paste op let them do all the clapping.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
9. I automatically flush anybody
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 08:41 PM
Oct 2014

who refers to Ebola as a "crisis". Just another of your internet hacks who's bought into media scare tactics.

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
25. To be fair it's possible for someone to not have heard about a 70% mortality rate and
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 09:51 PM
Oct 2014

around 3000 dead in West Africa and the WHO's prediction that in 2 months unless this outbreak is controlled we could see 10000 new cases a month or just don't consider it a "crisis".

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