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theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 06:24 PM Nov 2014

Here we go again: USCCB Chairman Praises Sixth Circuit Decision Upholding Marriage

USCCB Chairman Praises Sixth Circuit Decision Upholding Marriage
November 7, 2014

WASHINGTON—Archbishop Salvatore J. Cordileone of San Francisco, chairman of the USCCB Subcommittee for the Promotion and Defense of Marriage, praised the decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit upholding the rights of states to legally recognize and protect the meaning of marriage as exclusively between one man and one woman.

“The Sixth Circuit has upheld the rights of the citizens of Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky and Tennessee to protect and defend marriage as the unique relationship of a man and a woman,” Archbishop Cordileone said. “We are particularly heartened by the Court’s acknowledgment of the reasonable arguments for preserving the true definition of marriage and by the Court’s respect for the self-determination of states on this issue.”

The Court’s opinion included an argument grounding marriage in the complementarity of man and woman, saying: “It is not society’s laws or for that matter any one religion’s laws, but nature’s laws (that men and women complement each other biologically), that created the policy imperative.”

The Court’s opinion also argued for the rationality of the states’ protecting marriage’s unique meaning: “By creating a status (marriage) and by subsidizing it (e.g., with tax-filing privileges and deductions), the States created an incentive for two people who procreate together to stay together for purposes of rearing offspring. That does not convict the States of irrationality, only of awareness of the biological reality that couples of the same sex do not have children in the same way as couples of opposite sexes and that couples of the same sex do not run the risk of unintended offspring. That explanation, still relevant today, suffices to allow the States to retain authority over an issue they have regulated from the beginning.”

Archbishop Cordileone said, “The Church continues to support efforts to promote, protect and defend marriage in the law. We pray in solidarity with all people that the authentic meaning of marriage will be protected and honored in this country, for the good of all.”....

MORE at http://www.usccb.org/news/2014/14-179.cfm
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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
1. "The Church continues to support efforts to promote, protect and defend marriage in the law."
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 06:26 PM
Nov 2014

And that's the problem.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
2. The USCCB are really dug in on this and I don't know
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 06:30 PM
Nov 2014

what it is going to take to more them.

They can praise this all they want, but this circuit decision is not consistent with all the other court decisions on this matter.

They make me sick.

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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
5. That's from 2011. DOMA was struck down by SCOTUS in 2013.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 06:40 PM
Nov 2014

But I am sure that USCCB were enraged.

We need a revolution. I know that Francis moves slowly, but I hope he has a planned overhaul on his agenda.

The fact that he is getting so much grief from certain quarters actually makes me think that he is doing something right.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
7. Yep, that's an old press release
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 06:44 PM
Nov 2014

They've been coming out so fast and furious it's hard to keep track. I'll delete that post as to not create confusion.

I'm afraid I don't have the hope that you do regarding Francis and LGBTs. I don't see any difference, really, between his positions on these matters and those of Cordileone -- it's just a matter of tone.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
8. I've been mocked for it, but I remain cautiously optimistic.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 06:52 PM
Nov 2014

I don't really expect anything to substantially change, but I think a change in posture and attitude could lead to more change in the future.

I do see a difference between Francis and Cordileone, but I could be overly optimistic.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
10. Too bad he lives in the Ninth Circuit which has already ruled bans on same sex marriage are unlawful
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 07:47 PM
Nov 2014

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
11. Cordileone is known as the father of Proposition 8
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 08:00 PM
Nov 2014

He not only helped to draft but to finance Prop 8. I'm sure he is still fuming that it was finally trashed.

Still, he holds an important position with the USCCB so his influence is national, not just local.

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