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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 11:27 AM Jan 2015

Former highest-ranking U.S. cardinal blames ‘feminization’ for the Catholic Church’s problems

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/01/13/former-highest-ranking-u-s-cardinal-blames-feminized-church-for-the-catholic-churchs-problems/

By Terrence McCoy
January 13 at 5:46 AM

Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke is a man with a lot of enemies. The former archbishop of St. Louis, who once said supporters of abortion rights shouldn’t receive communion, became the highest-ranking American in the Vatican during the tenure of former Pope Benedict on the strength of unabashed conservatism. But as soon as Pope Francis arrived on the scene, that same conservatism turned divisive when Burke criticized Francis’s progressive policies.

For example, Burke, who headed the Vatican’s highest court of canon law, lampooned Francis in a Buzzfeed interview late last year. He said Francis had “done a lot of harm. … The pope is not free to change the church’s teachings with regard to the immorality of homosexual acts.” Weeks later, the pope booted the rampaging cardinal, who had come to symbolize the so-called “Culture Wars” roiling the Vatican, demoting him to a ceremonial post with the charity group Knights of Malta.

At the time, many believed the demotion would in some ways empower the cardinal to take more vocal stances against what he perceives to be a wayward church. Those suspicions have now been realized.

Last week, Cardinal Raymond Burke delivered a whopper of a manifesto in an interview with something called “The Emangelization,” which seeks to restore a sense of manliness to men in the church. In the interview, Burke offered a lengthy meditation on what he perceives to be the problem with the modern church. Most of them began, he said, with the advent of the women’s rights movement during the 1960s, which pushed for female participation in the Catholic Church. He derided it as “radical feminism.”

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Former highest-ranking U.S. cardinal blames ‘feminization’ for the Catholic Church’s problems (Original Post) cbayer Jan 2015 OP
I don't quite get the argument: The presence of women is driving men away? DetlefK Jan 2015 #1
The message is that radical feminism is the root cause of pedophile priests. LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #2
I had not heard that before but it would not surprise me. cbayer Jan 2015 #5
It's in your linked article. LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #7
Missed that point completely. cbayer Jan 2015 #8
Have you ever spent any time around nuns? cbayer Jan 2015 #3
Why do you want to censor him? trotsky Jan 2015 #6
When all else fails, blame the women. shenmue Jan 2015 #4
I wish Burke would join a Trappist order LeftishBrit Jan 2015 #9
He'd just complain about the bread with hand signs. rug Jan 2015 #10

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
1. I don't quite get the argument: The presence of women is driving men away?
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 11:53 AM
Jan 2015

Strong, manly men, warriors of God, ready to spread his word and save souls.
Only that they run away when they find out that there are women in this workplace.

The rest is lamentation how women refuse to be good house-wives and demand "rights" instead. Or how priests refuse to treat masturbation as a grave sin that could lead to death.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
2. The message is that radical feminism is the root cause of pedophile priests.
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 11:55 AM
Jan 2015

And no, I didn't make that up.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
7. It's in your linked article.
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 12:31 PM
Jan 2015
“There was a period of time when men who were feminized and confused about their own sexual identity had entered the priesthood; sadly some of these disordered men sexually abused minors; a terrible tragedy for which the Church mourns.”


Pope Francis did a good thing by demoting this guy. It would be good if he could impose a vow of silence, too, but that's probably asking too much.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
8. Missed that point completely.
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 12:40 PM
Jan 2015

He is conflating sexual identity with pedophilia.

A vow of silence would be wonderful and I wonder the pope wishes he could do that.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
6. Why do you want to censor him?
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 12:28 PM
Jan 2015

He's a religious believer with strong personal beliefs. Unless you have proof that he's wrong (remember, that's your standard), then you have no right to criticize him.

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