China Orders Dalai Lama to Reincarnate

[DonViejo]

The debate over whether or not the Dalai Lama will reincarnate has reached a boiling point in China, as one of its prominent party officials recently told reporters that “Decision-making power over the reincarnation of the Dalai Lama, and over the end or survival of this lineage, resides in the central government of China.” The Dalai Lama recently said his spiritual lineage might end with him and that he might not reincarnate. This would upend plans by the Chinese government to pick a successor who would support its control of Tibet. The Chinese official, Zhu Weiqun, shrilly declared that the Dalai Lama’s musings are “in religious terms, this is a betrayal of the succession of Dalai Lamas in Tibetan Buddhism. The 14th Dalai Lama has taken an extremely frivolous and disrespectful attitude toward this issue.”

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/03/11/china-orders-dalai-lama-must-reincarnate.html

[cbayer]

1. This reads just like an onion piece.

[okasha]

5. It's grotesque.

Oh, hey! Does this turn Chinese atheists into "faitheists?"

[cbayer]

6. Lol! China is having a lot of problems with their fatheists

these days.

[Warren Stupidity]

8. No it illustrates that authoritarian governments view religion as an important tool of control. nt.

[okasha]

10. Face it, Warren.

They'd all be drummed out of The Clubhouse for heresy in 30 seconds flat. Links and screenshots would be saved. Your fellow Upholders of Purity would still be yowling about what terrible people they were ten years later.

[Warren Stupidity]

12. It isn't clear to me what you are discussing at this point.

I mean other than the usual insults, what are you going on about?

Here is what is happening: the Chinese government intends to appoint the next Dalai Lama so that they can use the office to better control the monasteries, the monks, and the unruly Tibetan people. The current Dalai Lama would like that to not happen and so is doing the only thing he can do from where he is: declare the office terminated. The Chinese Government intends to promote Tibetan Buddhism to bolster its authoritarian control. What this has to do with clubhouses, purity and other imaginings in your head is yet to be explained.

Now carry on.

[trotsky]

13. It's just the general toxicity of this group.

It's gone down a bit lately - someone must not be here to hold up their own - but there are others who will keep making things personal, trying to divide and disrupt. All we can do is point it out, and stay to the facts like you did.

[truebrit71]

14. They always have...

..wasn't it Napoleon who said that religion was the only thing keeping the poor from killing the rich?

Plus ca change...

[stone space]

2. Battle of church and state over reincarnation? (nt)

[DetlefK]

3. Will they rip his soul from Nirvana and push into a new body?

[Newest Reality]

4. Dharma Chess. Check!

It has more than eleven dimensions and the board and pieces are empty!

[TM99]

7. This bloody hilarious!

I am sure all of the Lama's are having a great laugh at this.

The time for a Dalai Lama is passed. He admits it freely, and a new Tibetan government and Buddhism is emerging.

[okasha]

9. Or maybe he's bored

with a 14-incarnation career as the same person. Maybe he'd like to be something completely different next time. A ballerina or race car driver, say.

[TM99]

11. Bored? Doubtful.

I suspect he will come back much like many of the older Lama's are starting to do now. They are now part of this age and time. I am working on a music project with an early 20's recognized Lama. He drives a baby blue Vespa, listens to Dubstep, and is doing an Ambient project with me where he is doing Tibetan chants over my electronic music. If Tenzin returns, it will be similar to this.