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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 02:16 PM Aug 2015

Catholic priest tells children gay sex is 'like cramming a bagel into your ear'

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/catholic-priest-tells-children-gay-6251833

Reverend John Riccardo was speaking at a conference called 'Welcoming and Accompanying Our Brothers and Sisters with Same-Sex Attraction' in Michigan.

The gathering aimed to promote celibacy amongst Catholics with same sex-sex attraction.

The cleric told the attendees how he often explains gay sex to junior high students, the Advocate reports.

He said he tells them: "What if I just rip open a bagel, I take it, and I cram it in my ear. What would you say?”


Granted, I've never had sex with another man; however I'm pretty sure if it's like that, then you're doing it wrong.
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Catholic priest tells children gay sex is 'like cramming a bagel into your ear' (Original Post) trotsky Aug 2015 OP
So? atreides1 Aug 2015 #1
If he belives this how gay sex works, Kelvin Mace Aug 2015 #2
LOL trotsky Aug 2015 #3
No, it explains Fr. John Riccardo. rug Aug 2015 #13
As does those that defend the church by deflecting. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #28
I think this is what's called "unclear on the concept." The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2015 #4
Why would anyone be surprised when a Catholic priest makes a ridiculous statement notadmblnd Aug 2015 #5
This is all the love for gays we hear about coming from the RCC Goblinmonger Aug 2015 #6
He's quoting the Catechism right? rug Aug 2015 #14
The Catechism is worse, he just made an extremely stupid and ignorant statement on... Humanist_Activist Aug 2015 #90
But if it is not in an official document then the apologists can pretend it doesn't matter Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #91
Ah, you concede it's not in the Catechism. rug Aug 2015 #96
That seems to be the take-away. Except to the apologists, which is no surprise at all. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #30
It seems this has nothing at all to do with official RCC position on homosexuality. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #43
"promote celibacy amongst Catholics with same sex-sex attraction" Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #7
Great.... Rebubula Aug 2015 #8
Correction: they enforce the public appearance of clerical celibacy. LiberalAndProud Aug 2015 #53
"Well I am just a modern guy. . ." mr blur Aug 2015 #9
Great post . You made me laugh big time Person 2713 Aug 2015 #27
You're Iggy Pop-ing wrong. THE LYRICS ARE>... Heddi Aug 2015 #41
Ummm... rexcat Aug 2015 #54
It's transubsusiation Heddi Aug 2015 #68
catholic sex seems to be weird Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #10
What is "catholic sex"? rug Aug 2015 #15
cramming a bagel in your ear Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #16
Maybe there's something in your ear confusing what you heard. rug Aug 2015 #17
I do not use my ears to read Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #18
Well, if all you read is here, that would explain the confusion. rug Aug 2015 #19
I am not confused Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #20
Don't blame them. rug Aug 2015 #21
I blame the catholic church leaders Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #22
For your "weird" sex with Catholics? rug Aug 2015 #24
I never said I had weird sex with catholics Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #25
Consider the source. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #32
wham bam. Heddi Aug 2015 #42
Thanks for your own contribiution to discussions of sexual practices of DUers. rug Aug 2015 #51
Is there a reason you're reluctant to direct your personall remarks to your target? rug Aug 2015 #49
My granddad was catholic Heddi Aug 2015 #69
For the win. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #44
You have an extremely low bar, warren. rug Aug 2015 #52
Let's see . . . . rug Aug 2015 #48
I converted them Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #83
A twofer. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #84
Your bar keeps dropping. rug Aug 2015 #86
Thank You Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #98
To what? rug Aug 2015 #85
sane beings Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #99
The experience may have had the opposite effect. rug Aug 2015 #105
I do not think you were there unless you go around looking in windows Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #110
At least they actually had a release. rug Aug 2015 #111
I always make sure my partners get a release and a big smile on their face Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #112
Of course you do. Unfailingly. Every time. rug Aug 2015 #113
as I told you before I am sure Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #114
Evidence? rug Aug 2015 #115
I believe Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #116
You're confusing faith with sex. rug Aug 2015 #117
No Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #118
Yes rug Aug 2015 #121
You've pulled a Lucy. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #106
DING DING DING! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #76
Or any sex, for that matter. Starboard Tack Aug 2015 #78
maybe that what it feels like to him ? SummerSnow Aug 2015 #101
a good saying Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #103
According to the cleric in the OP Kelvin Mace Aug 2015 #36
You shold read it again. He said the opposite. rug Aug 2015 #47
Aural sex is what the kids are into these days Lordquinton Aug 2015 #11
As long as they don't use a condom it should be OK with the church, right? n/t trotsky Aug 2015 #23
I wonder what this priest thinks about Q-tips Lordquinton Aug 2015 #31
Well, that's a relief Kelvin Mace Aug 2015 #37
Or the morning after pill Doctor_J Aug 2015 #58
Lol. At first, I thought your post said that sex with kids is what the preists are into these days. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #33
I can understand the confusion Lordquinton Aug 2015 #34
I'd prefer they not talk to kids at all. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #35
Oh, heavans no. That's a thing of the past Doctor_J Aug 2015 #59
Spoken like a celibate with zero real-world experience. nt Xipe Totec Aug 2015 #12
B.S. Been doing this for years. Has nothing to do with ANY sex. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #26
As long as it's not an Everything Bagel... TlalocW Aug 2015 #29
'Is that a bagel in your ear' HFRN Aug 2015 #38
I first read that as "cramming a bagel into your car" Ron Obvious Aug 2015 #39
He is doing gay sex wrong Heddi Aug 2015 #40
maybe it was a bagel in the rear? Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #63
"ah said Yer ear, not yer rear!!!" Heddi Aug 2015 #66
Maybe he's doing the sex right, and the bagel-cramming wrong Doctor_J Aug 2015 #64
I wonder... Heddi Aug 2015 #67
Not just any bagel. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #45
What about a Bagel Bite Heddi Aug 2015 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Aug 2015 #46
What a waste of a bagel... rexcat Aug 2015 #50
How the fuck big is that guy's ears? Heddi Aug 2015 #70
I was a clinical microbiologist... rexcat Aug 2015 #73
I saw lots of things Heddi Aug 2015 #74
I saw bbq tongs... rexcat Aug 2015 #88
why. would. any. one. do. that. ? Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #94
Nothing surprises me anymore... rexcat Aug 2015 #97
Well, I've only done one of those Doctor_J Aug 2015 #55
Also, I assume he's taking about M/M. Doctor_J Aug 2015 #56
Finally, how the hell would this guy know? Doctor_J Aug 2015 #57
I assume he's done both. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #62
He is sort of implying that. Unless Doctor_J Aug 2015 #65
And for many priests ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #60
well yes there is that. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #61
Agreed. Consensual sex between adults ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #72
Well, I'm not gay but AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #75
'Welcoming and Accompanying Our Brothers and Sisters with Same-Sex Attraction' beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #77
After reading that, my "genital sexual faculty" hurts. mr blur Aug 2015 #79
If you're having fun with your genitals you're doing something evil. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #80
Yes, especially if it involves underage innocents. mr blur Aug 2015 #81
Well there's evil and then there's Evil. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #82
What if you're having fun with someone else's genitals? Lyric Aug 2015 #92
possesion is 9/10 of the law. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #95
In 5-10 years all across internet Lordquinton Aug 2015 #87
It is already a category on pornhub. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #89
Well I'll be... Lordquinton Aug 2015 #93
Rule 34. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #100
What? drm604 Aug 2015 #102
I have to admit that post made me curious tularetom Aug 2015 #104
You have to follow directions! Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #119
Thinking? I was consumed with lust! tularetom Aug 2015 #120
Why doesn't he try an English muffin? Mike Nelson Aug 2015 #107
There is an obvious comeback to your last point. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #108
Should this pedophile, I mean priest even Politicalboi Aug 2015 #109
 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
6. This is all the love for gays we hear about coming from the RCC
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 02:56 PM
Aug 2015

As long as you are celibate, then you are fine. But if you want to cram a bagel in your ear, then you are a dirty sinner.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
90. The Catechism is worse, he just made an extremely stupid and ignorant statement on...
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:14 PM
Aug 2015

sex between same sex people.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
91. But if it is not in an official document then the apologists can pretend it doesn't matter
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:45 PM
Aug 2015

then again if it is in an official document the apologists can insist that it doesn't matter.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
96. Ah, you concede it's not in the Catechism.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 06:56 PM
Aug 2015

How about Leviticus? That's your go-to book. Surely there's something about bagels in there.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
43. It seems this has nothing at all to do with official RCC position on homosexuality.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 06:10 PM
Aug 2015

You see the official position is that homosexuals are ok, but that homosexual sex gets you burned in hell, whereas this renegade priest is contending that homosexuals are ok, but that homosexual sex gets you burned in hell.

Now if you are too dull to understand the difference, that is your problem. Mine too. But it is obvious to some people here.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
7. "promote celibacy amongst Catholics with same sex-sex attraction"
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 02:57 PM
Aug 2015

because you know, if you are gay you should not have sex. Ever. Your entire life. Not even once.

What a hateful unloving religion.

Rebubula

(2,868 posts)
8. Great....
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:03 PM
Aug 2015

....now all I want is to cram a bagel in my ear.


Also - soooooo....his intention is to promote celibacy amoungst people with same sex attraction....and they ENFORCE celibacy amoungst Priests....

Coincidence???

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
53. Correction: they enforce the public appearance of clerical celibacy.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 08:04 PM
Aug 2015

What they do in private ... with children ... That's private and the church will work to keep it that way.

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
9. "Well I am just a modern guy. . ."
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:18 PM
Aug 2015

". . . Of course I've had it in the ear before."

- Iggy Pop,
"Lust For Life"

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
27. Great post . You made me laugh big time
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 05:00 PM
Aug 2015

Friar Tuck or whatever ihis name is should roll around in broken glass now and stop talking to kids

Heddi

(18,312 posts)
41. You're Iggy Pop-ing wrong. THE LYRICS ARE>...
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 05:50 PM
Aug 2015

Well I'm just a modern guy,
Of course I've had a bagel shoved in my ear before because I'm a filthy sinner who lives on wonton sex fantasies with, amazingly, bagels, won-tons, and other bread-and-pastry-based-life-forms....
I've got a lust for life...

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
25. I never said I had weird sex with catholics
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 04:40 PM
Aug 2015

I said that catholic leaders are polluting the minds of the youth with their weird ideas about sex


What I remember about my sex with catholics was that they seemed to be praying to god most of the time
OH GOD!! OH GOD!! OH GOD!! is what I heard...............

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
32. Consider the source.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 05:12 PM
Aug 2015

He probably thinks anything but missionary, get in, get done, and get out, is weird sex.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
51. Thanks for your own contribiution to discussions of sexual practices of DUers.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 08:03 PM
Aug 2015

Not my cup of tea though. But don't let me stop you.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
49. Is there a reason you're reluctant to direct your personall remarks to your target?
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 08:00 PM
Aug 2015

Other than the obvious?

Heddi

(18,312 posts)
69. My granddad was catholic
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 09:22 PM
Aug 2015

and he said on sunday mornings he prayed to Saint Mattrass

St. Mattrass. Mattress.

funny guy

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
48. Let's see . . . .
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 07:58 PM
Aug 2015

You said:
"catholic sex seems to be weird"

When questioned, you said:
"I am not confused
I have had sex with many catholics ............."

Ergo . . . .

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
110. I do not think you were there unless you go around looking in windows
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 03:01 PM
Aug 2015

and the experience released their soul from the burden of false faith

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
112. I always make sure my partners get a release and a big smile on their face
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 03:15 PM
Aug 2015

I am sorry you can not say the same thing about your partners

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
113. Of course you do. Unfailingly. Every time.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 03:34 PM
Aug 2015

Are you sure they were smiling and not laughing?

We were talking about your partners since you brought it up.

Do you know any of my partners or are you assuming without evidence?

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
37. Well, that's a relief
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 05:20 PM
Aug 2015

because I had no idea how the Hell I was going to get a condom on a bagel and whether or not the cream cheese would make a good lube.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
33. Lol. At first, I thought your post said that sex with kids is what the preists are into these days.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 05:13 PM
Aug 2015

And that wouldn't be far from the truth.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
34. I can understand the confusion
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 05:16 PM
Aug 2015

Personally I don't want any priest talking to kids about sex, talk about the fox guarding the hen house.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
35. I'd prefer they not talk to kids at all.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 05:18 PM
Aug 2015

Or to quote from aliens, "best to take off and nuke the site from orbit."

Heddi

(18,312 posts)
40. He is doing gay sex wrong
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 05:48 PM
Aug 2015

I've had lots of gay sex (with women) and have seen lots of men having gay sex (with men) and I've never seen anything close to a bagel in the ear. ...

A ___type of food___ in the ___body part___, but never a bagel in the ear....

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
63. maybe it was a bagel in the rear?
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 08:51 PM
Aug 2015

But still, bagels are either too stiff or not stiff enough. It just doesn't seem to be possible.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
45. Not just any bagel.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 06:14 PM
Aug 2015

It has to be a bagel with a smear. And not toasted either. In fact for best results you want a buttered bagel with a smear. But you have to be in New York to get one of those.

Heddi

(18,312 posts)
71. What about a Bagel Bite
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 09:25 PM
Aug 2015

Pizza in the morning
Pizza in the evening
Pizza at supper-time
When pizza's on a bagel,
you can eat pizza anytime
from any hole
anywhere
unless it's a man hole or an ear
then you'll go to hell

Response to trotsky (Original post)

rexcat

(3,622 posts)
50. What a waste of a bagel...
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 08:01 PM
Aug 2015

Putting a bagel in one's ear doesn't sound very appropriate or sexually satisfying unless you have an ear/bagel fetish then by all means go for it. That begs the question, what is this priest up to when he is having sex?

Heddi

(18,312 posts)
70. How the fuck big is that guy's ears?
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 09:23 PM
Aug 2015

I mean...even Bagel Bites....they're pretty large.

I can say that I've seen lots of holes--above and below the waist (I'm a nurse, part of my job). If anyone has any orifice that is large enough for a bagel--bite or otherwise---they should see a medical professional ASAP

rexcat

(3,622 posts)
73. I was a clinical microbiologist...
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 10:11 PM
Aug 2015

back in the day and saw all kinds of things that came out of human "holes" but not worth going into detail.

Heddi

(18,312 posts)
74. I saw lots of things
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 10:48 PM
Aug 2015

that went into holes and had to be surgically removed. My education when I worked in the ER: don't put anything up your butt that is home made, that doesn't have a flange on the end, or that doesn't have a handle. Oh, and cockrings should only be made of silicone, leather, or other easily-removable things. no titanium, please (yes, saw that). No industrial nuts that would be used on things like timber forklifts (yep, saw that too). Don't put anything glass inside of you (saw that many times).

rexcat

(3,622 posts)
88. I saw bbq tongs...
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 10:13 PM
Aug 2015

unfortunately the guy perforated his colon. He did survive the surgery and the peritonitis. I saw a lot of stuff in the ER! One of the advantages of working in a small community hospital.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
65. He is sort of implying that. Unless
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 09:05 PM
Aug 2015

he's watched gay sex, and watched people cram bagels in their ears, and from that can tell they're the same.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
60. And for many priests ...
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 08:36 PM
Aug 2015

... gay sex is "like cramming your penis into the mouth or rectum of a frightened, traumatized altar boy".

I don't apologize for my bluntness on the topic. The Catholic Church lost all credibility on the subject of "gay sex" when they turned a blind eye not only to man-on-boy sex between priests and male children, but to the pedophilia that was part-and-parcel of the events that went on, and were deliberately covered-up for centuries.

You can't take the "high road" when it comes to homosexuality when your own "anointed by God" priests have been indulging in it throughout history, with each other and with CHILDREN.

I could say "Jesus wept" - but there are few in the Catholic hierarchy who would be familiar with the reference.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
61. well yes there is that.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 08:43 PM
Aug 2015

But really there is no "high road" concerning consensual sexual behavior between adults. It is nobody's business. There is no road, no moral issue over which to be either high or low.

I expect your post will be alerted on by the perpetually offended. Hopefully it will survive a jury.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
72. Agreed. Consensual sex between adults ...
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 09:44 PM
Aug 2015

... requires no "high Road" or "low road", nor any road at all.

Non-consensual sex between priests and children, however, is worth ridicule - especially when priests discuss it.

As for the perpetually offended - fuck 'em. And if that gets me a "hide", I really couldn't care less.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
75. Well, I'm not gay but
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 12:19 AM
Aug 2015

I do know my way around a penis, and I can think of about a dozen more productive uses for that bagel. M/M anyway.

F/F I'd pick something else from the bakery.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
77. 'Welcoming and Accompanying Our Brothers and Sisters with Same-Sex Attraction'
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 06:45 AM
Aug 2015

If you're "welcoming" lgbt people by telling kids they're perverts ur doin it wrong.

We get it, RCC, only Catholic approved sex is moral and healthy, check out this list:

Questions and Answers on Catholic Marital Sexual Ethics

1. What determines the morality of an act?
2. What determines the morality of a sexual act?
3. Which types of sexual acts are moral between a husband and wife?
4. Which types of acts are moral for a husband and wife to use as foreplay?
5. Is the missionary position the only moral sexual position?
6. If the husband or wife is not fertile, due to injury, illness, or old age, is the act of natural marital relations still moral?
7. May a married couple engage in natural intercourse during the wife's pregnancy, or during her period?
8. Are divorced Catholics permitted to receive holy Communion?
9. Why is the use of contraception always gravely immoral?
10. May a married couple use barrier contraceptives to prevent disease transmission?
11. May a married woman use contraceptives for a medical purpose?
12. Must a spouse refrain from sexual relations with a contracepting spouse?
13. How is natural family planning (NFP) different from artificial birth control (ABC)?
14. Is passionate kissing only moral within marriage?

...

2. What determines the morality of a sexual act?

A sexual act is any deliberate use of the genital sexual faculty.

Sexual acts are not exempt from the moral law. To be moral, each and every knowingly chosen sexual act must have three good fonts of morality. The intention must be good, the moral object must be good, and the good consequences must outweigh any bad consequences.

In order to have a good moral object, each and every sexual act must be marital and unitive and procreative. Each and every moral sexual act always has these three meanings: marital, unitive, procreative. The deprivation of any one or more of these meanings from the moral object causes the sexual act to be intrinsically evil and always gravely immoral.

The natural sexual act is genital-to-genital intercourse between a man and a woman. This act is unitive and procreative. Natural sexual intercourse between a husband and wife is called natural marital relations. Only natural marital relations is martial and unitive and procreative.

The use of contraception deprives the act of natural intercourse of the procreative meaning, causing the sexual act to be non-procreative. The use of contraception is intrinsically evil and always gravely immoral because it deprives sexual relations of its procreative meaning, which is required by God for sexual acts to be moral. Therefore, natural marital relations must always be open to life (not contracepted).

A non-marital sexual act is any type of sexual act outside of marriage. Acts of adultery, pre-marital sex, and masturbation are non-marital. All non-marital sexual acts are intrinsically evil and always gravely immoral because these acts lack the marital meaning, which is required by God for sexual acts to be moral.

An unnatural sexual act is any type of sexual act that is not unitive and procreative. Examples of unnatural sexual acts include oral sexual acts, anal sexual acts, and manipulative sexual acts (i.e. masturbation of self or of another). All unnatural sexual acts are intrinsically evil and always gravely immoral because these acts lack the unitive and procreative meanings, which are required by God for sexual acts to be moral. These acts are not procreative because they are not the type of act that is inherently directed at procreation. These acts are not truly unitive, even if there is a certain mere physical union of body parts, because this is not the type of sexual union intended by God for human persons. Unnatural sexual acts are not justified by being done within marriage because the moral law requires each and every sexual act to be not only marital, but also unitive and procreative.

To be moral, each and every sexual act must be marital and unitive and procreative. All non-marital sexual acts, all non-unitive sexual acts, and all non-procreative sexual acts are intrinsically evil and always gravely immoral. All such acts have an evil moral object, and so they are not justified by intention, or by circumstances, or by other acts.


Seems to me the wrinkled virgins who obsess like this are the real perverts.

Those of us actually having sex care more about being responsible to our partners and enjoying ourselves.




beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
82. Well there's evil and then there's Evil.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 08:37 AM
Aug 2015

People having consensual sex not approved by the RCC is immoral according to the RCC.

Priests molesting children and the RCC not only covering it up but moving them to another parish so they can continue to prey on them is a whole other level of immorality.

They even made a policy specifically to ensure that they wouldn't get caught:

Crimen Sollicitationis: An interpretation

Father Tom Doyle is a canon lawyer. He had a diplomatic career with the Vatican but was sacked after he criticised the church's handling of child abuse. He gives this interpretation of Crimen Sollicitationis in the Panorama film.

Crimen solicitationis is indicative of a worldwide policy of absolute secrecy and control of all cases of sexual abuse by the clergy.

But what you really have here is an explicit written policy to cover up cases of child sexual abuse by the clergy to punish those who would call attention to these crimes by the churchmen.

You've got a written policy that says that the Vatican will control these situations and you also have I think clear written evidence of the fact that all they are concerned about is containing and controlling the problem.

Nowhere in any of these documents does it say anything about helping the victims.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/panorama/5392338.stm

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
104. I have to admit that post made me curious
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 02:35 PM
Aug 2015

So this morning, before my wife got up, I crammed a bagel into my ear. It was an "everything" bagel.

I don't think I'll be trying gay sex in the foreseeable future.

But my ear boogers look really weird.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
119. You have to follow directions!
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 03:58 PM
Aug 2015

You need a buttered bagel with a smear. And no, not an everything bagel. WTF were you thinking?

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