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Did God have any other kids? (Original Post) Cartoonist Aug 2015 OP
Yes, Mr. Bernie Sanders BlueJazz Aug 2015 #1
Well, according to the book(s)... TeeYiYi Aug 2015 #2
Cleopatra Cartoonist Aug 2015 #3
True... TeeYiYi Aug 2015 #4
In a 14-billion-year-old universe of 100 billion+ galaxies, Arugula Latte Aug 2015 #5
Nope. Out of billions of light years and galaxies beyond counting... Binkie The Clown Aug 2015 #6
It's pretty amazing, isn't it? Arugula Latte Aug 2015 #13
Well clearly T-Rex was not the chosen dinosaur. n/t Binkie The Clown Aug 2015 #36
The provincialism of the Abrahamic religion is so ridiculous it should be obvious.. Yorktown Aug 2015 #34
If you believe in G-d, I would suggest the other children are... DonViejo Aug 2015 #7
And a shitload of other children to balance the scales packman Aug 2015 #8
Oh come on, the Borgias on a list like that quite a stretch Leontius Aug 2015 #16
Well, maybe not as obvious as the rest but--- packman Aug 2015 #17
Most of the accepted stories about the Borgia's were based on slander and rumor Leontius Aug 2015 #46
How about kids on the billions of other planets likely to support advanced life in this universe? Arugula Latte Aug 2015 #11
The Vatican recently claimed that while there Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #19
Logic? Wrong group (nt) mr blur Aug 2015 #14
I bet you were a riot in the fifth grade. rug Aug 2015 #9
Well, enlighten us with your answer, then. Arugula Latte Aug 2015 #12
I think that's all you get from fourth graders. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #30
You'll know when you get there. rug Aug 2015 #31
I stand corrected. You also get "I know you are but what am I" cleanhippie Aug 2015 #32
Apparently, he kept a Chinese bit on the side ... eppur_se_muova Aug 2015 #10
Why did he choose edhopper Aug 2015 #15
I only want to know rug Aug 2015 #18
Stop asking the difficult questions. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #20
In this case edhopper Aug 2015 #21
I'm sure you're familiar with the saying about broken clocks. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #22
My Father's children struggle4progress Aug 2015 #23
Ain't we all SkyDaddy's kids? Iggo Aug 2015 #24
Genesis 6:1-4 LTX Aug 2015 #25
Brian? KansDem Aug 2015 #26
My understanding is that all God's children got rhythm. Orrex Aug 2015 #27
Do avatars count? AlbertCat Aug 2015 #28
read The Last Day by Glenn Kleier Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #29
Personally... MellowDem Aug 2015 #33
How do you know that everything does not have a soul?? Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #38
I don't, but many beliefs think only humans do... MellowDem Aug 2015 #39
I would think the first order of business would be the definition of a soul Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #40
God never had a kid. Because God is gay. Yorktown Aug 2015 #35
What are you talking about? Many, many gay people are parents. rug Aug 2015 #37
You really should read posts before answering them Yorktown Aug 2015 #41
Oh, that's much better. The only way a gay person can be a parent is by adoption. rug Aug 2015 #42
Straw man Yorktown Aug 2015 #43
That's what you wrote. Own it. rug Aug 2015 #44
Please learn to read Yorktown Aug 2015 #45

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
2. Well, according to the book(s)...
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 06:56 PM
Aug 2015

...he only had one (only begotten) son. But daughters... there could be a boatload.

TYY

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
5. In a 14-billion-year-old universe of 100 billion+ galaxies,
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 07:13 PM
Aug 2015

you'd think that ol' God would have gotten around a lot and that he is the Baby Daddy of more than just the one carpenter dude from the Judea of only 2,000 years ago on one little planet in an unimaginably vast and old universe. I mean, would God have put off having kids for 14 billion years only to have the one magical hairless ape homo sapien offspring? Let's just use logic to think about that.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
6. Nope. Out of billions of light years and galaxies beyond counting...
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 07:23 PM
Aug 2015

everything important that he ever did was done within a few hundred square miles of desert. And not only that, he picked the few hundred square miles that the "chosen people" happened to live in. As for all the billions of non-chosen people, god just said "Screw 'em!" Why he created them just so he could say "Screw 'em!" is beyond me. But then god works in mysterious ways.

Oddly enough, almost every culture that has its own religion considers itself to be the "chosen people", and considers its own neighborhood to be the only place in the universe that god ever did anything important.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
13. It's pretty amazing, isn't it?
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 12:33 AM
Aug 2015

That Grand Plan of God's, well, it's a doozy all right.

I do wonder at what point God drew the line. Like, were Australopithecus just too damn primitive to be the chosen hominids? Did Neanderthals just miss the boat? I feel a bit bad for them, as well as for the billions of un-chosen homo sapiens.

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
34. The provincialism of the Abrahamic religion is so ridiculous it should be obvious..
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 09:09 AM
Aug 2015

But it will take a few generations more of college educated kids to become obvious, I guess..

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
7. If you believe in G-d, I would suggest the other children are...
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 07:27 PM
Aug 2015

all of us but, there are exceptional children; Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Dorothy Day, Nelson Mandela, Hillel, the Ba'al Shem Tov, Maimonides and Mother Theresa to name but a few.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
8. And a shitload of other children to balance the scales
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 08:06 PM
Aug 2015

Vlad the impaler, Genghis Khan, the Borgis, Ivan the Terrible, Richard Speck, Adolf Hitler, Tojo, and many others. God just didn't crap out beautiful rainbows. And in between those exceptions are the rest of us.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
17. Well, maybe not as obvious as the rest but---
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 04:59 PM
Aug 2015

"... the reign of Alexander VI, they were suspected of many crimes, including adultery, incest, simony, theft, bribery[citation needed], and murder (especially murder by arsenic poisoning).[1] Because of their grasping for power, they made enemies of the Medici, the Sforza, and the Dominican friar Savonarola, among others. "

and

:As Alexander VI (One of the popes) , Rodrigo Borgias was recognized as a skilled politician and diplomat, but was widely criticized during his reign for his over-spending, sale of Church offices (simony), lasciviousness, and nepotism. As Pope, he struggled to acquire more personal and papal power and wealth

From Wikipedia which goes on about them-





.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Borgia

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
46. Most of the accepted stories about the Borgia's were based on slander and rumor
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 02:57 PM
Aug 2015

Julian propaganda. As for the Sforzas' one the most brutal and pathologically violent families of the age Savonarola well his history is not exactly one that is to be admired.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
11. How about kids on the billions of other planets likely to support advanced life in this universe?
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 12:26 AM
Aug 2015

Or are we The Chosen Species from The Chosen Planet?

You'd think that God would have given a shout-out to the dinosaurs, at least. They were around for 230 million years (and survive today in the form of crocs and birds and so on), but we've only been here for 200,000 years. A mere blip. Buuut, I guess we are Extra Special in the eyes of The Deity.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
19. The Vatican recently claimed that while there
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:21 AM
Aug 2015

likely is intelligent life elsewhere, only one jeebus.

They addressed the damnation of innocents problem 500 years ago, more or less, rewriting shit such that those without prior knowledge of the one true church etc. don't have to roast in hell forever. Those with access to the right religion remain doomed.

LTX

(1,020 posts)
25. Genesis 6:1-4
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 11:45 AM
Aug 2015

"When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. Then the Lord said, "My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years." The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown."

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
28. Do avatars count?
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 08:28 PM
Aug 2015

Vishnu has many.


But the 10 best known are:

of course
Rama
Krishna
Buddha

and
Parashurama

all men

Vamana is a dwarf

the others are either animals or half animals ...do they count?
Matsya
Kurma
Varaha
Narasimha

and
Kalki (eternity)
is supposed to appear at the end of Kali Yuga

There are many others....


I'm no Hindu, but I find it interesting..... especially how avatars of Vishnu.... that come to Earth to play their role to maintain the world and preserve Dharma.... are not unlike Christ.

Interesting ideas that make good myths and stories..... not to be taken literally.... unless you believe in supernatural gobbledygook.

MellowDem

(5,018 posts)
33. Personally...
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 10:30 PM
Aug 2015

I wonder about all the other sentient civilizations across the universe that have popped in and out of existence over the course of billions of years. Did he have a child for each of those? And why doesn't he ever mention them?

I also wonder how conscious an organism must be before God decided it was time to give it a soul. Dolphin level?

MellowDem

(5,018 posts)
39. I don't, but many beliefs think only humans do...
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:24 PM
Aug 2015

But even Homo sapiens didn't just pop into existence, I wonder at what point in evolution they would get souls under such a belief, and what about Neanderthals etc.?

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
35. God never had a kid. Because God is gay.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 09:16 AM
Aug 2015

Follow my reasoning:

1- Jesus is God (in another persona, let's not split hairs)

2- Jesus is gay (see video below)

ergo, 3- Gay God never had a kid

(unless he adopted one, but that's not the main line)

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
41. You really should read posts before answering them
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 07:52 PM
Aug 2015

I did write "unless he adopted one"

And you can check: my post is unedited.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
42. Oh, that's much better. The only way a gay person can be a parent is by adoption.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 08:07 PM
Aug 2015

Do you ever read what you write?

I'm tempted to call it homophobia but for your cluelessness.

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
43. Straw man
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 08:18 PM
Aug 2015

Only a dishonest person would read what you did in what I wrote.

Or someone clueless.

Your pick.

Your time out hasn't changed your sanctimonious and aggressive tone.

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
45. Please learn to read
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 08:25 PM
Aug 2015

I was referring to a gay man having children.

As of now, the route I mentioned -adoption- is the hugely predominant one.

The other existing possibilities are as of now marginal, some with ethical issues.

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