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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 02:36 PM Oct 2015

Bishop who killed cyclist while driving drunk gets 7 years

Previous threads on this story:
Cycling Advocates Demand Md. Bishop Be Charged In Bicyclist’s Death
and
Bishop to be charged with manslaughter in death of cyclist Thomas Palermo

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/religion-news-34795221

BALTIMORE (AP) — A former Episcopal bishop who killed a bicyclist in Baltimore while driving drunk has been sentenced to seven years in prison.

Heather Cook, who was the second ranking Episcopal bishop in Maryland, pleaded guilty last month to manslaughter, drunken driving and leaving the scene. She fatally struck 41-year-old cyclist Tom Palermo on Dec. 27. The impact threw Palermo onto Cook's hood and into the windshield of her car. He died of severe blunt force trauma to the head, leaving behind a wife and two young children.

Prosecutors say Bishop Cook left the scene for 30 minutes before returning. She was texting when the accident occurred, and her blood-alcohol level was 0.22 percent, almost three times the legal limit. The church asked for and received her resignation.

A judge sentenced Cook on Tuesday to 20 years with all but seven suspended. Prosecutors had asked for a 10-year prison term.


Not her first drunk driving offense. Killed a man with a young family. Left the scene. Gets 7 years, and will probably get out earlier than that. Justice served?
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Bishop who killed cyclist while driving drunk gets 7 years (Original Post) trotsky Oct 2015 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #1
She's out of a job and will spend years in the slam... TreasonousBastard Oct 2015 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #4
I don't think my comment has anything to do with religion Goblinmonger Oct 2015 #6
How about the 20 years that killing someone and leaving the scene called for? n/t trotsky Oct 2015 #7
Exceptionally, just this time, I'll defend a bishop Yorktown Oct 2015 #8
20 years is for the manslaughter plus leaving the scene. trotsky Oct 2015 #9
Gee, accused individuals should fear your court Yorktown Oct 2015 #10
Not for drunk drivers, nope. trotsky Oct 2015 #11
I suppose I'm more lenient Yorktown Oct 2015 #13
Alcohol and cannabis have very different effects. cleanhippie Oct 2015 #14
How so? Yorktown Oct 2015 #16
I'll send you a PM cleanhippie Oct 2015 #20
Drunk driving is not just "foolish behavior". Mariana Oct 2015 #12
yada, yada, I read you Yorktown Oct 2015 #15
She's been caught driving drunk before. Mariana Oct 2015 #17
Addiction is a disease Yorktown Oct 2015 #18
Addiction is a disease. Mariana Oct 2015 #19
I guess she didn't "suffer" from affluenza. Poor thing. She could have just gone to rehab then. stillwaiting Oct 2015 #3
This is the real problem HassleCat Oct 2015 #5
Aside from drunk driving, she has been defrocked. kwassa Oct 2015 #21
I wondered at the time and still wonder if there are any deep pockets (aka The Church)... Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2015 #22

Response to trotsky (Original post)

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
2. She's out of a job and will spend years in the slam...
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 02:44 PM
Oct 2015

So, how much more do you think would be appropriate?

And why?

Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #2)

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
6. I don't think my comment has anything to do with religion
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 03:24 PM
Oct 2015

but this isn't enough. What we do in this country for drunk driving punishment isn't enough. I hope the victim's family wins a civil suit for enough money that this person, once they get out of jail all too soon, will need to work the rest of their life paying off that judgment. It needs to go beyond the limits of her insurance.

Seven year for killing someone because you drove drunk is not enough. People are in jail for longer than that for pot possession charges.

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
8. Exceptionally, just this time, I'll defend a bishop
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 04:23 PM
Oct 2015

20 years for manslaughter is a bit high.

Manslaughter is the result of a foolish behavior (drunk driving)

Should be tested by psycho/sociologists, but 5 years no parole might teach the lesson?

With a lifetime of having to financially support the dependents of the deceased.

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
13. I suppose I'm more lenient
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 05:10 PM
Oct 2015

Alcohol or pot are recreational substances which have roughly the same effect and should be legal.

If one is foolish enough to do something they shouldn't while IU (like D), and end up committing harm, the number of years in jail should teach a lesson.

But 20 years jail is a bit talionic. After 20 years, there is not much life left.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
14. Alcohol and cannabis have very different effects.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 05:15 PM
Oct 2015

To compare the two as the same would be grounded in ignorance of the facts.

Now combining the two, OTOH....

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
16. How so?
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 05:22 PM
Oct 2015

To me, alcohol is gradual, cannabis more a threshold effect (binary: normal/little cloud)

No idea if it's the general case.

Anyway, I only tried cannabis episodically for a short period at U, so I'm no expert.

And I wouldn't go over the alcohol limit if I had to something to do, much less drive.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
12. Drunk driving is not just "foolish behavior".
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 05:09 PM
Oct 2015

It is criminal behavior. This bishop killed someone while she was committing the crime of driving drunk.

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
15. yada, yada, I read you
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 05:16 PM
Oct 2015

And I can understand the anger of people who lose someone because of a drunk driver.

But the driver commits something reckless and idiotic, not planning ahead to kill.

Spoiling the life of a fool for his foolishness doesn't seem productive to me.

5 years is a long time to ponder over a (very big) mistake.

Behavioral specialists could probably determine the appropriate penalty better.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
17. She's been caught driving drunk before.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 05:25 PM
Oct 2015

She was given second chance then. She chose to drive drunk again and she killed someone.

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
18. Addiction is a disease
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 05:33 PM
Oct 2015

it's not more years in prison that will cure her.

I'll meet you halfway: 5 years prison + strict probation on drinking after release.

Deal, your Honor?

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
19. Addiction is a disease.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 05:40 PM
Oct 2015

Drunk driving is a crime. There are alcoholics who don't drive drunk, I'm related to some of them. Too bad she didn't decide to be one of them.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
3. I guess she didn't "suffer" from affluenza. Poor thing. She could have just gone to rehab then.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 02:50 PM
Oct 2015
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/05/us/texas-affluenza-teen/

It is very important for Americans to understand that if you are wealthy you don't have to suffer consequences like non-wealthy people. It's the way the country works! Isn't it the best?!?!

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
5. This is the real problem
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 02:53 PM
Oct 2015

MADD is busy campaigning for lowering the blood alcohol limit so police can arrest more "impaired" drivers. The real problem is, and has been for years, alcoholics who manage to fly - drive, actually - under the radar, in spite of having multiple previous convictions. They are difficult to detect, because alcoholics specialize in showing normal behavior while stone drunk. They're out there, every day, and we can't catch them.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
21. Aside from drunk driving, she has been defrocked.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 10:25 PM
Oct 2015

Once she gets out of jail, she will have no career.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,343 posts)
22. I wondered at the time and still wonder if there are any deep pockets (aka The Church)...
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 11:33 PM
Oct 2015

... the family could go after.

Was she on company business with a church vehicle? Bishop is pretty high up there.

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