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Related: About this forumFor Believers, Talking to Atheists Is Like Confronting Death
What they didn't realize was I had already confronted the notion of death that this one life was the only one I would get before the lights went out forever. I had struggled with that fact two years prior, dealing with panic-inducing anxiety and depression trying to accept the lie told to me since my birth: that, if I was good, I would live on in heaven.
Tom Jacobs from Pacific Standard writes that atheists are not well-liked among believers. Derek Beres says that in his conversations with believers, they think atheists are arrogant, while Jacobs says that others believe that non-believers don't have any morals. However, a recent study published in the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science provides a reason for this antagonism: "Among believers, the mere contemplation of atheism can arouse intimations of mortality."
There's that seed of doubt that nags, saying, What if they're right? It's a terrifying notion, and this uniquely human awareness of death gives rise to potentially paralyzing terror that is assuaged by embracing cultural worldviews that provide a sense that one is a valuable participant in a meaningful universe.
The researchers believe that anti-atheist prejudices stem, in part, from the existential threat posed by conflicting worldview beliefs.
http://bigthink.com/ideafeed/atheists-threaten-believers-with-mortality?
Response to cleanhippie (Original post)
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MADem
(135,425 posts)TlalocW
(15,384 posts)And then you hand me the power of death or being death-like?
TlalocW
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Look at how much that scares the pious.
mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)No matter how bad things get, there will come an end. The best thing to do is to live the few years you have as best you can. Live your life so people will regret your leaving it.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I told a friend that I was an atheist, and she was appalled; not because I don't believe in God, but because I don't believe in an afterlife. She asked me how I can possibly go on living if I don't believe in life after death. I replied at 1) If this is all there is, of course I want to go on living; and 2) I didn't exist for millennia, and I never was unhappy about that. Ceasing to exist is a lot better than burning for all eternity!
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Perfect! gonna borrow that sometime.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)This is what they see when I tell them I'm an atheist.
zazen
(2,978 posts)Did I get that wrong?
In addition, one can believe in a higher power/higher intelligence in the universe while accepting that our bodies return to the same cosmic soup from which we arose. It's not our bodies that go on for ever--it's the universe of which we're a part, whether we're not yet born, not ever born, alive or dead. To the degree I believe I'm a part of something that's much larger than I am, then when I die big deal.
The construct of faith presented by the atheists in this study is not externally valid.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)very similar to the Quaker belief-- there may be an afterlife, but nobody has come back to tell us about it, so we won't worry about it. There's enough in the current life to keep us busy, and if we do it right, any afterlife will take care of itself.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)My favorite is the classic "wow, just wow".
So deep, so thought out, so reasoned.
So inspiring.
bvf
(6,604 posts)We ignore them at our peril.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)-- and I hope I'm remembering this correctly -- came to the conclusion that while he himself wasn't entirely convinced there was a God, a person was better off believing there was, because what if you got to the afterlife and discovered God really existed? Then you'd be in big trouble.
I always thought that was just about the dumbest reason to believe that I'd ever heard of. It presupposes that if there is a God, He/She/It gets mighty pissed at those who don't believe in Him/Her/It. And that punishment is the most salient feature of an afterlife.
I do happen to believe in an afterlife, but in my version punishment isn't part of it. Besides, I'm thinking that the Bible doesn't address the issue of an afterlife at all.
DavidDvorkin
(19,479 posts)And that argument is known as Pascal's Wager.
Its major flaw is the assumption that there are only two possibilities: no god, or the one believed in by Christians, complete with Hell and Heaven/eternal punishment and reward.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)I took some philosophy courses a long time ago, and have totally forgotten things like the names of them.
And yes, the assumption that there are only two possibilities was called in another philosophy class: The horns of a false dilemma.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)just sayin'.
Leontius
(2,270 posts)Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)It gave you an excuse to post here... in the only way you seem to know how.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)1. Someone wasted time on the internet!? Whaaaaaat?
2. You didn't like an article that was even remotely positive to atheists. I should leave a note for my wife that if she ever finds me dead in front of the computer, it's probably because Leonitus said something positive about atheists.
Leontius
(2,270 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)Fix The Stupid
(948 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)See? Problem solved!