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Related: About this forum“Nones” Are on Track to Be the Swing Vote… Again
to save the world from the Republicans, that is.
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(details of religious and 'none' votes in 2012 swing states)
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So on the surface, Trumps appeal among independents often considered the bulk of the Nones is nil. But when you dive further into the Nones from across the spectrum, the odds of Trump being able to reverse what happened to Romney in 2012 look even more remote. In a January Pew Research Center study, they asked the religiously unaffiliated to weigh in on what kind of president each of the candidates would be.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/02/25/nones-are-on-track-to-be-the-swing-vote-again/
When you look at the detailed figures behind that chart, you can think "Trump is unpopular even with religious people - we'd be OK anyway" (he gets more great/good votes than poor/terrible among white evangelicals, but no other group, and overall he's at 31% g/g, 52% p/t). But it should be noted that Bernie and Hillary both do badly among religious people - because too many of them are the Religious Right. So, using some maths to extract the 'religiously affiliated' numbers from the total and unaffiliated numbers, we find:
Bernie Sanders
total (1525) g/g 30%=458 p/t 35%=534
unaff (293) g/g 51%=149 p/t 19%= 56
affil (1232) g/g 309=25% p/t 478=39% Net -14%
Donald Trump
total (1525) g/g 31%=473 p/t 52%=793
unaff (293) g/g 14%= 41 p/t 73%=214
affil (1232) g/g 432=35% p/t 579=47% Net -12%
Hillary Clinton
total (1525) g/g 35%=534 p/t 44%=671
unaff (293) g/g 42%=123 p/t 27%= 79
affil (1232) g/g 411=33% p/t 592=48% Net -15%
Macro Rubio
total (1525) g/g 25%=381 p/t 28%=427
unaff (293) g/g 15%= 44 p/t 40%=117
affil (1232) g/g 337=27% p/t 310=25% Net +2%
Ted Cruz
total (1525) g/g 28%=427 p/t 31%=473
unaff (293) g/g 15%= 44 p/t 52%=152
affil (1232) g/g 383=31% p/t 321=26% Net +5%
If only the religiously affiliated voted, Trump does very slightly better than Sanders or Clinton; and Rubio and Cruz, well, cruise it.
If Rubio, or even Cruz, were to get the Republican nomination after all, it could be a close thing, even with the unaffiliated vote. But that 'none' Democratic vote is needed.
trotsky
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(118,290 posts)but if we assume these numbers are reasonably accurate and will still apply on Election Day in November, it might mean something like this:
Unaffiliateds contribute to Cruz -7.7% = (.12 - .52)*293/1525
White Mainline Protestants contribute to Cruz -0.5% = (.30 - .33)*238/1525
Black Protestants contribute to Cruz -1.3% = (.09 - .28)*102/1525
Catholics contribute to Cruz +0.4% = (.30 - .28)*313/1525
Unaffiliateds contribute to Rubio -4.8% = (.15 - .40)*293/1525
White Mainline Protestants contribute to Rubio +1.1% = (.30 - .23)*238/1525
Black Protestants contribute to Rubio -1.2% = (.09 - .27)*102/1525
Catholics contribute to Rubio +0.2% = (.29 - .28)*313/1525
Unaffiliateds contribute to Trump -11.3% = (.14 - .73)*293/1525
White Mainline Protestants contribute to Trump -0.8% = (.39 - .44)*238/1525
Black Protestants contribute to Trump -3.7% = (.12 - .68)*102/1525
Catholics contribute to Trump -4.7% = (.30 - .53)*313/1525
Unaffiliateds contribute to Clinton +2.9% = (.42 - .27)*293/1525
White Mainline Protestants contribute to Clinton -3.9% = (.29 - .54)*238/1525
Black Protestants contribute to Clinton 3.5% = (.13 - .29)*102/1525
Catholics contribute to Clinton -0.2% = (.40 - .41)*313/1525
Unaffiliateds contribute to Sanders +6.1% = (.51 - .19)*293/1525
White Mainline Protestants contribute to Sanders -3.1% = (.24 - .44)*238/1525
Black Protestants contribute to Sanders +1.3% = (.36 - .16)*102/1525
Catholics contribute to Sanders -2.2% = (.28 - .39)*313/1525
A more realistic assessment requires a state-by-state assessment of likely voters and large enough accurately stratified samples in one-one candidate match-ups