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So what does the first step do exactly? (Original Post) Major Nikon Jul 2016 OP
Delay you from feeding them? (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #1
Prevents smugness for being such a noble person. rug Jul 2016 #2
Thank you. Ilsa Jul 2016 #3
Love Francis, but I suggest that the reverse would work very well also. No Vested Interest Jul 2016 #4
If you believe we're basically animals-- Igel Jul 2016 #5
Why should I mind my own business about prayer when they don't? Major Nikon Jul 2016 #6
Your logic fails. trotsky Jul 2016 #7

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
4. Love Francis, but I suggest that the reverse would work very well also.
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 04:54 PM
Jul 2016

Or -pray before and after feeding the hungry.
Or - Feed hungry, pray, feed again.

It's all good.

Igel

(35,317 posts)
5. If you believe we're basically animals--
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 06:14 PM
Jul 2016

We live a physical life in physical bodies, with no separate "spiritual" life, then it does nothing. No god, no afterlife. You live, then you die and feed a variety of other forms of life. (There is no "lower" form of life. Just different ones.)

Of course, then we have a problem. If the only reward you get is what you get for yourself, then a lot of extreme behavior is perfectly justified. People have bent over backwards to come up with a decent ethics system that most people like based on universally accepted principles, but there aren't any. Mostly you assume your principles about what "the good" is and go from there as though the principles were axiomatic.

However, you don't need to do the first step if you don't want to. But if somebody else is doing the second step when you're sitting there saying, "Just feed them!" then you should mind your own business. He's not giving orders. He's explaining a word of no interest to you.

You abide by your own rules governing your moral behavior, and let others do likewise.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
6. Why should I mind my own business about prayer when they don't?
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:42 PM
Jul 2016

When someone is allowed to throw their ideas out for public consumption, but others aren't allowed to criticize those ideas, more than likely you have an excellent example of privilege.

The "if" part is also part of the problem. The amount the Catholic church gives directly to the hungry or anyone else is pretty much nil. Catholic charities are separate entities which are primarily financed with tax dollars. So for the most part, praying is all they are doing, which is why it needed to be mentioned to begin with.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
7. Your logic fails.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:52 AM
Jul 2016

Right here:

"If the only reward you get is what you get for yourself"

I believe we have only our physical bodies, and this is the only life we get. But I also believe there are rewards other than what I get for myself. Sorry that all non-believers don't live up to your nasty stereotype.

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