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Related: About this forumThe only thing 'odious' at Paramus Catholic is bigotry
http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/08/the_only_thing_odious_at_paramus_catholic_is_bigot.htmlA New Jersey Catholic high school is being sued for firing a beloved guidance counselor and basketball coach because of her "odious" gay lifestyle.
This was the revealing word choice of Rev. Thomas Nydegger, second-in-command to Archbishop John J. Myers. We'll get to that. First, though, there is a church v. state debate.
The Newark Archdiocese argues Kate Drumgoole wasn't fired from Paramus Catholic because she was gay, but because she violated church tenets by entering into a same-sex marriage. It says this falls under an exception to the state's anti-discrimination law that protects religious freedom, and that the First Amendment also guards religion against government meddling.
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How far we allow religion to go is a genuinely difficult legal question. What if a religion holds that races should not mix, as many Christian churches once did? Should that church have the right to fire teachers based on race? When does a claim of religious freedom become an excuse to justify bigotry?
This was the revealing word choice of Rev. Thomas Nydegger, second-in-command to Archbishop John J. Myers. We'll get to that. First, though, there is a church v. state debate.
The Newark Archdiocese argues Kate Drumgoole wasn't fired from Paramus Catholic because she was gay, but because she violated church tenets by entering into a same-sex marriage. It says this falls under an exception to the state's anti-discrimination law that protects religious freedom, and that the First Amendment also guards religion against government meddling.
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How far we allow religion to go is a genuinely difficult legal question. What if a religion holds that races should not mix, as many Christian churches once did? Should that church have the right to fire teachers based on race? When does a claim of religious freedom become an excuse to justify bigotry?
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The only thing 'odious' at Paramus Catholic is bigotry (Original Post)
trotsky
Aug 2016
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(82,333 posts)1. You're slipping.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12217071
You also left out the students' reaction:
http://www.northjersey.com/news/paramus-catholic-alumnus-writes-letter-to-administrators-after-same-sex-marriage-firing-1.1650948
4,000 signatures to date.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd-y9EoQGY_5mHfBn3SM5xmxF-RxxDkrn9E6DdrE92zGWoYEw/viewform?edit_requested=true
You also left out the students' reaction:
http://www.northjersey.com/news/paramus-catholic-alumnus-writes-letter-to-administrators-after-same-sex-marriage-firing-1.1650948
4,000 signatures to date.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd-y9EoQGY_5mHfBn3SM5xmxF-RxxDkrn9E6DdrE92zGWoYEw/viewform?edit_requested=true
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)2. It's an elaborate ruse, you see
To show the Vatican that there is support for gay marr- well, not firing the gays, at the very least.
Never mind that this is merely the latest in a long line of Catholic Schools firing people for being gay. Oh, my bad, not firing them for being gay, but for acting on gay impulses, like they would fire a divorcee.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)3. Seriously, I would like someone to explain to me how this is OK...
when the other example given (a church that condemns interracial marriage) isn't? We wouldn't allow the latter, so why is the former alright? Oh wait I'm probably just being an anti-Catholic bigot for asking why the church promotes bigotry. My bad.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)4. Some things are beyond reason and into mysterious ways
Like how slavery is no longer ok, even though the bible (and it's assorted companion holy books) all say it's just fine, if you follow some simple rules.