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Did Mary receive child support? (Original Post) Cartoonist Feb 2017 OP
None of the three "wise" men thought to bring Warpy Feb 2017 #1
Somebody just alerted on this thread for bigotry Ken Burch Feb 2017 #2
Thank you Cartoonist Feb 2017 #3
Bigotry? trotsky Feb 2017 #7
Did Frodo have PTSD? Iggo Feb 2017 #4
You'd have a point, if the Hobbits were major figures in the New Testament. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #5
I have a point because they're both fictional. Iggo Feb 2017 #6
This is the Religion group Ken Burch Feb 2017 #8
This is not a protected group for believers. Iggo Feb 2017 #9
OK...but there is some obligation to treat the subject of the group and the people in it Ken Burch Feb 2017 #20
Post removed Post removed Feb 2017 #21
There is no obligation. There is only privilege, which I can choose to grant or not. Iggo Feb 2017 #22
I think it was a joke, but I think it read as disrespect not only to people in the group. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #23
I answered an obvious skeptical and satirical joke with an obvious skeptical and satirical joke. Iggo Feb 2017 #25
Clarifying Cartoonist Feb 2017 #27
What makes religious beliefs deserve special treatment? trotsky Feb 2017 #24
But the nativity edhopper Feb 2017 #17
Tolkien was adamantly Catholic Bretton Garcia Feb 2017 #10
Money doesn't magically appear in the Nativity narrative so my answer would be no. hrmjustin Feb 2017 #11
Post nativity Cartoonist Feb 2017 #12
Well since the Bible is silent on most of his childhood you will have to hrmjustin Feb 2017 #13
You keep referring to the Bible Cartoonist Feb 2017 #14
"Play along, Godly"? What's wrong with you? rug Feb 2017 #15
I keep referring to the Bible because it is a biblical story. hrmjustin Feb 2017 #16
Did you guys miss my recent post? Cartoonist Feb 2017 #18
I must have. Thanks for clarifying. hrmjustin Feb 2017 #19
Joseph stepped up. Ilsa Feb 2017 #26

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
1. None of the three "wise" men thought to bring
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 09:26 PM
Feb 2017

diapers or a crib, either, although the gold probably came in handy.

Maybe that was the idea for child support, something to buy diapers with (gold), something to kill the stink when they got used (fiankincense), and something to use when the kid died (myrrh).

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
2. Somebody just alerted on this thread for bigotry
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 03:44 AM
Feb 2017

It was a ridiculous alert and I voted against hiding it.

Cartoonist

(7,317 posts)
3. Thank you
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 09:56 AM
Feb 2017

I anticipated some oversensitive religious type might try to flex their religious privilege. Thanks for sweeping it under the rug.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
5. You'd have a point, if the Hobbits were major figures in the New Testament.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 02:42 PM
Feb 2017

I suppose they could be in the Apocrypha somewhere, but still...

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
9. This is not a protected group for believers.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 04:09 PM
Feb 2017

There are other groups, protected groups, for religious people to discuss their religion and their religiousness amongst each other without unwanted input from non-religious people. I've got no problem with that. This ain't that.

This is the Religion Group.
Statement Of Purpose: Discuss religious and theological issues. All relevant topics are permitted. Believers, non-believers, and everyone in-between are welcome.

If you're saying the OP (and the ensuing discussion of it) is not a relevant topic, that's one thing. However, the fact that we are in the Religion Group in no way means that I'm not allowed to share my view that Mary is fictional.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
20. OK...but there is some obligation to treat the subject of the group and the people in it
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 03:25 PM
Feb 2017

with some degree of respect.

I seriously doubt that you can ONLY maintain your agnostic or atheist sensibilities by never missing an obligation to treat those with religious convictions with dismissal and contempt.

Not only that, the OP asked a serious question and you weren't even respecting the OP.

Response to Ken Burch (Reply #20)

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
22. There is no obligation. There is only privilege, which I can choose to grant or not.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 08:14 PM
Feb 2017

And I almost always choose not to grant it. Those days are over.

Also: Do you really think that was a serious question?

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
23. I think it was a joke, but I think it read as disrespect not only to people in the group.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 08:32 PM
Feb 2017

But to the OP itself.

I'm not saying you should defer to the religious-industrial complex. Of course you shouldn't. But why treat the OP itself(an OP that was making a skeptical and perhaps satirical point)as though the point and the thread author are just silly?

To what degree is that ever a good way to communicate with people?

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
25. I answered an obvious skeptical and satirical joke with an obvious skeptical and satirical joke.
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 05:52 PM
Feb 2017

That's a great way to communicate.

How did I disrespect him/her?

Cartoonist

(7,317 posts)
27. Clarifying
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:43 PM
Feb 2017

Of course the OP was a joke. I love making fun of religion. Tough shit if anyone can't take it. The OP was a response to a recent thread that asked if Mary and Joseph had sex after Jesus was born. That some people here considered it as a serious question is why religion makes such a great target for ridicule.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
24. What makes religious beliefs deserve special treatment?
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 01:08 PM
Feb 2017

Why are they different than opinions on any other topic?

Bretton Garcia

(970 posts)
10. Tolkien was adamantly Catholic
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 06:19 PM
Feb 2017

And referred to his Lord of the Rings as "fundamentally Catholic."

http://decentfilms.com/articles/faithandfantasy

I've always seen the Church as feudalistic. And hobbits and Frodo and Joseph and Mary, as serflike.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
11. Money doesn't magically appear in the Nativity narrative so my answer would be no.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 12:49 AM
Feb 2017

But you never know.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
13. Well since the Bible is silent on most of his childhood you will have to
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:44 AM
Feb 2017

draw your own conclusion.

Cartoonist

(7,317 posts)
14. You keep referring to the Bible
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 07:10 AM
Feb 2017

Why don't you just make things up like religion does?

Play along, Godly.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
16. I keep referring to the Bible because it is a biblical story.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 11:27 AM
Feb 2017

I said draw your own conclusion so be creative if you like. Maybe God put a coin under the water jar for Mary every day. Use your imagination!

And calling me Godly is not helpful. Thanks.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
26. Joseph stepped up.
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 05:57 PM
Feb 2017

He didn't have to. His betrothed was pregnant, and not by him.
Did God have something to do with that? Yeah, maybe. Maybe God appealed to Joseph's compassion. He didn't want this young woman to be stoned.

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