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Related: About this forumConservative Christians Are Fighting an Alabama Bill That Would Protect Kids At Childcare Centers
Because profit using religion as a cover is more important to them than the health and saefty of children:
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Each of her day cares has been dogged by complaints of abuse and neglect. Workers said she hit children with flyswatters, locked them in closets or rapped them with rulers. Shes failed to pay so many employees that one reportedly slapped her in the face and another threatened to hurl a pickle jar at her, according to police reports.
She has been arrested multiple times, for crimes ranging from theft to child endangerment.
In total, Deborah Stokes has operated at least a dozen Christian day cares across southern Alabama. Every time she is chased out of town by furious parents, workers or landlords, she reopens in the next town over. In the process, she has collected at least $86,000 in taxpayer funding to run her day cares with almost no oversight.
https://www.revealnews.org/article/she-runs-disastrous-day-cares-but-her-church-makes-her-untouchable/
The solution here would be to pass legislation requiring all childcare facilities to be licensed, requiring them to meet certain standards with regards to basic health and safety measures.
And that bill, HB 277, is currently being discussed and debated in the Alabama House.
Conservative Christians, as usual, are furious. They see this as a violation of their religious freedom, because they think they should have the right to harm kids however they want.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/03/15/conservative-christians-are-fighting-an-alabama-bill-that-would-protect-kids-at-childcare-centers/
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"There are excellent church-affiliated day cares," said Rep. Pebblin Warren, D-Tuskegee, who sponsored the bill. She said her grandchildren attend a church day care that she loves, but that her grandson was victimized at another church day care that operated without a license.
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"The grass on the playground was higher than the kids' play equipment," she said. " The owner) had about 90 kids in this school. They had about three teachers for 90 kids."
Mears said it's unfair to force churches to comply with a government regulation because some individuals take advantage of the system by using a church affiliation to avoid regulation and cut costs.
http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2017/03/conservative_christian_groups.html
Yes, that's right, the people trying to keep the "religious schools" unregulated are either so brain dead or think their fellow religionists are so brain dead that their argument is "not all the religious centres are awful, therefore regulating them would be unfair to the good ones". They seem to want the religious exemption just because it is a religious exemption, even if it brings religion into disrepute.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)and the abusive ones should be put out of business and prosecuted for any crimes committed.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And I trust that you know the rest of the quotation.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Because I know that conservative Christians would argue that it means the state needs to butt out of how they run religious daycare centers.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)There are laws against assault.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)But there is a religious exception for peyote.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And.......................?
trotsky
(49,533 posts)These people's religion says it's ok to physically discipline their children.
That's why they argue they deserve the same kind of exception.
Religious privilege in action.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)As far as I am aware, assault is illegal in all states. So if discipline rises to the level of assault, it should be prosecuted.
I fail to see the relevance.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)says nothing about christians have a right to start a business ........
If they want to do day cares for free .....that would be good
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Or, more literally...
"He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes."
-- King James Bible, Proverbs 13:24
These monsters actually want children to be beaten.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)So there are Biblical literalists, and there are those who read for meaning.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/theprinciplesofspiritualliving/2014/11/the-truth-about-spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child/
Response to guillaumeb (Reply #5)
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guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)what is your conclusion?
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)That a book can be taken so many different ways, yet is held as absolute truth makes things problematic for religion. Which is why I say Yes all religions, because you're insisting that verse should stay in the bible because you can interpret it creatively gives cover to the people who use it to abuse children.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)There should be no exemptions for religious operations. treat them the same as any other business of the same type.