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rug

(82,333 posts)
Thu May 3, 2012, 09:07 AM May 2012

Indonesia's atheists face battle for religious freedom

Alex Aan faces jail for posting 'God doesn't exist' on Facebook, renewing fears for atheists in the world's most populous Muslim country



Activists say Alex Aan’s is the first case in which an atheist in Indonesia is being tried in relation to 'pancasila', which requires belief in one god. Photograph: Kate Hodal

Kate Hodal in Padang
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 3 May 2012 05.22 EDT

When Alex Aan picked up a copy of Karen Armstrong's Holy War from his local library in west Sumatra in 2005, he had little inkling of his own religious battle to come. But after posting "God doesn't exist" on Facebook, the soft-spoken civil servant, 30, faces up to 11 years in jail for what is considered blasphemy in Indonesia.

His case has stoked a debate in the world's most populous Muslim nation, whose 240 million citizens are technically guaranteed freedom of religion but protected by law only if they believe in one of six credos: Islam, Catholicism, Protestantism, Buddhism, Confucianism and Hinduism. Those who question any of those face five years in prison for "insulting a major religion", plus an additional six years if they use the internet to spread such "blasphemy" to others.

Activists say Aan's is the first case in which an atheist is being tried in relation to the first pillar of Indonesia's state philosophy – pancasila, which requires belief in one god. From the medium-security rural prison where he has been held for the past two months, Aan has little hope for the future. He has been beaten by angry mobs, rejected by his community and endured public calls for his beheading. For now he is lying low in his cramped cell, awaiting an imminent verdict and has told none of his fellow inmates about his supposed crime.

"The truth is way too dangerous," says Aan quietly, his hands clasped together over his prison-issue blue jeans and button-down shirt. "I'm really worried about my future. And I'm only just now starting to think about how I'm going to deal with it."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/03/indonesia-atheists-religious-freedom-aan

"Pancasila". Never heard of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancasila_(politics)

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Not only do I fear the believers who would pursue this here JNelson6563 May 2012 #1
The chance that pancasila will be proposed in thr U.S. is quite remote. rug May 2012 #2
While I do agree with you JNelson6563 May 2012 #4
I wasn't aware of this at all. cbayer May 2012 #3
How do they square belied in one god with at least two of the allowed religions dmallind May 2012 #5
Good question. rug May 2012 #6

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
1. Not only do I fear the believers who would pursue this here
Thu May 3, 2012, 09:21 AM
May 2012

But even moreso I fear and disdain the countless believers who might not agree with such tactics but would turn a blind eye and remain silent.

And those are the folks who are everywhere.

Julie

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
2. The chance that pancasila will be proposed in thr U.S. is quite remote.
Thu May 3, 2012, 09:27 AM
May 2012

That chance that it will gain even marginal support is remoter.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
4. While I do agree with you
Thu May 3, 2012, 11:33 AM
May 2012

There are those who would push us as far down that road as they could. There are great powers that would love to help such a cause along.

Julie

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
3. I wasn't aware of this at all.
Thu May 3, 2012, 10:47 AM
May 2012

So you can choose from 6 religions, but you have to choose one. How bizarre.

dmallind

(10,437 posts)
5. How do they square belied in one god with at least two of the allowed religions
Thu May 3, 2012, 12:11 PM
May 2012

Confucianism, Buddhism, and even basic Hinduism as practiced by most believers cannot really be called monotheistic.

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