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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 12:24 PM Nov 2017

The Masterpiece Cakeshop Case Is Not About Religious Freedom

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/opinion/gay-religious-freedom-cake.html

...there’s a long history of people using religious liberty as reason to justify their refusal to provide a public service offered by their business. In 1968, the owner of a barbecue restaurant — Piggie Park, in South Carolina — held that his religious beliefs gave him the right to withhold service from African-Americans. The owner, Maurice Bessinger, argued that the Civil Rights Act violated his freedom of religion, because “his religious beliefs compel him to oppose any integration of the races whatever.

More recently, a pediatrician rejected Krista and Jamie Contreras’s child as a patient in Roseville, Mich., in 2014. The doctor, saying she had given the matter “much prayer,” decided that she couldn’t provide health care to their baby because they are lesbians.

On Tuesday, in a case supported by the Trump administration and a group called Alliance Defending Freedom, a broad right to discriminate on the basis of faith will be argued before the Supreme Court. If you’ve never heard of the Alliance Defending Freedom, the name alone is probably a tip off that freedom is the last thing it’s concerned with defending. The Southern Poverty Law Center has designated it a hate group.

...Ironically, one group that might wind up discriminated against by the religious exemptions case is — wait for it — religious groups themselves. As one of the groups filing an amicus brief in the case points out, “petitioners’ arguments for a religious exemption permitting denials of service to same-sex couples could also be advanced to support denials of service to people of marginalized faiths.” The long bloody history of the world suggests that giving one faith permission to discriminate against another rarely ends well.
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The Masterpiece Cakeshop Case Is Not About Religious Freedom (Original Post) trotsky Nov 2017 OP
Indeed it is not. MineralMan Nov 2017 #1
It is all about -- BillyBobBrilliant Nov 2017 #2
I doubt it. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #3
Where do you think they learn their bigotry? Mariana Nov 2017 #5
Recommended, and agreed. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #4

BillyBobBrilliant

(805 posts)
2. It is all about --
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:06 PM
Nov 2017

Let's use 'The Lord' as an excuse to be bigots (in defiance of the idea of 'Christian charity').

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
3. I doubt it.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:10 PM
Nov 2017

There's no reason to suspect these homophobic attitudes emerged independently of religion. They are, in fact, most strongly associated with religion -- Christianity in particular.

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
5. Where do you think they learn their bigotry?
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 09:49 PM
Nov 2017

It's taught from the pulpit Sunday after Sunday. When the law comes down on them, their congregations hold them up as martyrs and heroes of the faith. These people are bigots because of their faith, not in spite of it.

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