So, help me decide. Should I stay or should I go?

[MineralMan]

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I used to post here, but stopped for a very specific reason. I returned when that reason was no longer present. Now, I'm considering bailing again, and for the very same reason. Should I? Or should I stay? I can go either way.

I'm not in a very good mood today, for an obvious reason. My Senator is resigning, and that pisses me off. So, my patience with games is at the low edge of tolerance.

Talk me down, or tell me to leave. I don't care.

ETA: To clarify, I'm talking about this group, not DU as a whole. Just the Religion Group.

[guillaumeb]

1. Stay.

[byronius]

2. Leave not, Man of Minerals. Deep breath.

Quality of humans at this place determines the fate of the species. You leave, quality dips, some other planet in a far away galaxy gets to be the survivor but not us.

You think I'm joking. But I am not.

[pandr32]

6. Valid

You just helped me today... hopefully Mineral Man too.

[dweller]

3. I come here for specific posters opinions ...

and you, and waterman , among others, are top of my list
please stay 🙏🏻

[FarPoint]

4. We don't have the Board Management like we we did few years ago.

Things change, this site is less nurtured....

[rateyes]

5. I may leave the whole damned party.

Democrats always find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. I must be too old to care any more.

[3catwoman3]

7. Please stay. Please.

Your reliably interesting posts are among those that always draw me in. We've lost Hillary and Al. I don't want to lose you, too.

[FM123]

8. Dear MM

When I first came to DU, it was YOUR posts/articles that I found and read first - funny, inspiring & informative. I still enjoy your posts to this day - please stay.

[saidsimplesimon]

9. "Should I stay or should I go?"

Oh course, you are going to get the musical connection from me. I stay where I wish, whenever I wish. I am retired, and fighting some cyber crooks, so, also, not in a good mood.

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[kag]

10. Please stay, MM.

There are few here (I can count them on one hand) whose posts I will read when I see who the author is, without having to look at the subject. But you are one of them.

I, too, am disheartened today, but it helps to have others around who "get it".

Please stay.

[Heartstrings]

11. I feel much the same and say

take it a day, hour, minute at a time. Sometimes, if not for du, I would have thought I was the crazy one!

[IADEMO2004]

12. Stay vote here.

[highmindedhavi]

13. Please stay

we are all in this together, don't leave us one short.

[Brainstormy]

14. Leaving religion or DU?

If it's the former, I say go. But there's a forum for atheists and agnostics, you know. So, if it's the latter, stay.

[MineralMan]

18. Just this group. DU is my online home.

[Nitram]

15. You add quality to the discussions here at DU. Don't go.

[WoonTars]

16. Back to FR, or just this forum or DU as a whole?

Your post isn't clear.?

[MineralMan]

19. It is clear. I'm posting in this group.

If I were asking about DU, I'd have posted in GD. As for Free Republic, I was banned from there 11 years ago. 11. Get over it, please.

[WoonTars]

20. I'm sorry, your original "HEY LOOK AT ME" post wasn't terribly clear.

Now you have clarified it...thank you.

[Bradshaw3]

17. Stay and fight the good fight

We need to fight against the oligarchs, bigots and traitors politically and religion generally, as the world would be better off if they all were sent to the dustbin of history.

[Mariana]

21. Please stay, MineralMan.

Your posts are so thoughtful and well-reasoned, clear and honest. I take pleasure in reading them, and I know I am not the only one.

[SWBTATTReg]

30. Amen. MM, your posts are well thought out. You, among

other posters are big reason I finally joined DU this year, even though I have been reading for years and years. I wanted to support the DU community, for I learn far more about various issues here than going to dozens of websites combined on the internet. Any decision you make, of course we'll support you in full. Best Wishes.

[yallerdawg]

22. MM should stay!

I appreciate the respectful free-for-all here in this group! Rare in DU!

If someone in particular annoys you, hit that IGNORE button and make THEM disappear!

[guillaumeb]

26. Hey!!! Where did I go?

Hello?!? Is there anyone out there?

Yes, the tone is generally respectful.

[RandomAccess]

23. I think at least some of the people who have responded have overlooked

that you were asking about this group not DU as a whole.

I haven't.

I don't come here and am not religious myself, but I've seen a couple of your posts here reach the Greatest page. I've wondered (without, I'll admit, having read the posts, just the somewhat provocative, anti-religion titles) -- if you're not religious, why are you pestering people who are? If I did come here, I'd consider your very presence an affront. Maybe the people here are more forgiving than I.

[Mariana]

24. Perhaps you should read the purpose of this Group.

Discuss religious and theological issues. All relevant topics are permitted. Believers, non-believers, and everyone in-between are welcome.

There are several "safe haven" groups for religious people in which awkward questions and criticism of religious beliefs are not permitted. This is not one of them. MineralMan's posts absolutely belong in this group. Your post, on the other hand, is way out of line.

[guillaumeb]

25. So you dismiss a post that you find critical,

reject the criticism, a criticism which some here actually agree with, while you insist that the poster is out of line. An interesting standard is being exhibited.

[Mariana]

33. RandomAccess's post is indeed out of line.

MineralMan's posts conform perfectly with the stated purpose of this group: Discuss religious and theological issues. All relevant topics are permitted. Believers, non-believers, and everyone in-between are welcome. I will add that MineralMan has never posted anything as rude and hateful as what RandomAccess did. His very presence is an affront to no one.

[guillaumeb]

39. I have been called many rude names here.

By atheists. So rudeness is not a new addition to this group.

Again, an interesting and selective standard,

[Mariana]

40. Just stop it, Gil.

You've been criticized, teased, baited and ridiculed, but no one here hates you. No one in this group has ever said anything personally hateful to you. Certainly no one has made even the slightest suggestion that you your very existence here is offensive. Just stop pretending those things are the same. They are not.

[guillaumeb]

42. Now it is you who is reframing what was said by another.

Interesting technique.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

34. There are safe havens where people can discuss religion without atheists. This is not one

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If someone takes an affront to an atheist in Religion, that's too fucking bad. They can go to Interfaith or some other protected place and not have to deal with us. We are welcome here according to the rules. That you don't want to stick up for that indicates what you would like to see here. And that is out of line. By definition.

[democratisphere]

27. Stay away from the Religion Group and continue on.

Politics is tricky, Religion can be unbearable.

[Docreed2003]

28. Stay...

I’m frustrated and angry too...but I love your voice here because it makes me think and forces me to ask questions of my own spirituality!

[Lotusflower70]

29. I hear you

I am deeply frustrated that our Senator is gone. I hope you stay. Take a break if needed. Grieve the loss, I know I am. Be well and take care of you.

[sprinkleeninow]

31. Please forgive me if you have ever suffered an offense

because of me.

You may not be alone. Myself has been having a particularly crapola week:
personally, publicly, politically.

"Stay, mm mm mm mm, just a little bit longer...."🎶

All the best, MM 😍

[louslobbs]

32. Stay.

Though I don't post a lot anymore, I do read DU frequently and appreciate your opinions, views, and various commentary. So please stay and continue to share. Thank you.
Lou

[Laffy Kat]

35. Don't go, MM.

Take a hiatus if you must, but don't call it quits.

[BluesRunTheGame]

36. Stay

Please

[marylandblue]

37. Don't leave

Don't let another person drive you away from a discussion that interests you. You don't have to respond to any post you don't like.

[Pope George Ringo II]

38. And that's what the "ignore" button is for.

If there's one poster who is just too much hassle to deal with and offers nothing of value in return, just ignore a person rather than a group.

The downside is that threads of 62 posts can have 4 visible responses because the other posts can feature one guy being used as a masochistic pinata, but your blood pressure will thank you. And how useful is it to see that play out for the 5,817th time, anyway?

[edhopper]

41. I have been enjoying your posts

I say stay and keep the conversation going.