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HAB911

(8,904 posts)
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 10:44 AM Dec 2017

Trent Franks

Can someone explain why a pro-life/anti-abortion extremist like Franks would disregard his God's rather obvious plan for him and his wife to be barren to the point of impregnating a stranger? How does he justify that? tia

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Trent Franks (Original Post) HAB911 Dec 2017 OP
Justification Cartoonist Dec 2017 #1
My money's on that just being a stupid cockamamie "explanation" for his lewd behavior. trotsky Dec 2017 #2
Infertility is a medical condition MichMary Dec 2017 #3
How delightfully hypocritical of them Lordquinton Dec 2017 #5
I'm sure there are ways to have a discussion of surrogate parenting MineralMan Dec 2017 #4
He should read about Sarah Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #6

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
2. My money's on that just being a stupid cockamamie "explanation" for his lewd behavior.
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 11:58 AM
Dec 2017

He asks all his female staffers if they want to bang, then comes back and says "No I just wondered if they wanted to be a surrogate, you see."

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
3. Infertility is a medical condition
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 12:14 PM
Dec 2017

Even evangelical Christians and "anti-abortion extremists" understand that. Seeking treatment, or adopting, or surrogacy, isn't defying God's will anymore than taking an aspirin for a headache is defying God's will.

I'm not defending Franks; as far as I know, no one knows what was actually said. But, I know evangelical Christians and staunch anti-abortion people. Really, they aren't wild-eyed crazies. Their point of view is that life begins at conception, and that is their justification for opposing abortion.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
4. I'm sure there are ways to have a discussion of surrogate parenting
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 01:33 PM
Dec 2017

that would avoid offense. I'm equally sure that Trent Franks is incapable of doing so. Here's the sort of dialogue I imagine happened in his offices that caused offense.

Treating surrogate parenting like a sophomoric joke comes to mind, though.

"Well, if you decided to do that for us, you wouldn't have to f**k me, of course, although that wouldn't be so bad, really. I'm just saying... I could just b**t o** in the lab or something. Whaddya say? Haw-haw!"

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