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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 05:23 PM Dec 2017

For me, the concept of "Hell" is really the concept

of a realization near the end of one's life that one has wasted that limited resource. Most people, if they are not suddenly stricken down early by something fatal, have time to reflect on their lives. It may be a brief reflection or one that occupies years of time. But, we have all learned what is good to do with our lives and what is not. We may not use that information wisely, but we've all learned it. We have all been exposed to it by our cultures.

End of life reflections, I believe, are what are variously described as Heaven, Hell, and other terms. When we examine our lives as we come near the end of them, we reflect on those lives, to a greater or lesser degree. If that reflection causes regret due to our poor behavior, that reflection can expand into an all-inclusive negative experience. If we can see our lives as well-spent and useful in some way to others, then regret is likely not the central emotion.

Heaven or Hell. Most people will experience it when they are still alive. At age 72, I find myself reflecting more and more often on my own history and actions from the past. I expect that most people do the same. How we see ourselves in that final mirror may well be our own Paradise or Perdition.

So I believe, anyhow.

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For me, the concept of "Hell" is really the concept (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2017 OP
Thank you for your wisdom. I will turn 76 next month and find that reflection on the past cornball 24 Dec 2017 #1
No Heaven, no Hell, no regerts mikehiggins Dec 2017 #2
drove a religious guy crazy one day when I said "everyone goes to heaven" demigoddess Dec 2017 #3
How do you (get sent/ send yourself)to Hell? mikehiggins Dec 2017 #5
To the Norse, Hel was a place of extreme cold. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #4
I always figured "Hell" is life on earth. If we don't get it right the first time, shraby Jan 2018 #6
And I now have Lee Marvin's most famous attempt at singing stuck in my head Pope George Ringo II Jan 2018 #7
Teehee... MineralMan Jan 2018 #8
Lee Marvin makes the mountains sound Pope George Ringo II Jan 2018 #9

cornball 24

(1,477 posts)
1. Thank you for your wisdom. I will turn 76 next month and find that reflection on the past
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 06:07 PM
Dec 2017

is becoming more significant. I am a combination of all the positive and negative experiences throughout my life. I must endeavor to use the negatives as a tool to distinguish what is important and what is not. It is about the journey. Every day is a gift.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
2. No Heaven, no Hell, no regerts
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 06:38 PM
Dec 2017

I stopped beleiving in the Big Guy (or Girl) when I went to Iona College in New Rochelle, NY. The faculty, largely members of the Irish Christian Brothers, taught me to question everything which, to an Irish Catholic product of Catholic schooling, was quite enlightening.

The first result of this process was drinking myself out of Iona and things have rolled on pretty well since then. I clearly remember driving off campus, AM radio blaring, and as I did, the song playing was a 60's anthem, Cast Your Fate To the Wind. Seemed like good advice to me.

So now, about 59 years later, I look back on what I've done so far and, like the candy bar ad says, I got no regerts. I don't mind people who need belief to function or justify themselves, I just roll along with that old saying, Do Unto Others (etc., etc.) Worked out pretty well, as far as I can see.

I don't expect to find anything waiting for me on "the other side" but if there is something all I can say is I did the best I could. At 72 that's a pretty good feeling.

demigoddess

(6,641 posts)
3. drove a religious guy crazy one day when I said "everyone goes to heaven"
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 06:48 PM
Dec 2017

I believe we all go to 'heaven' and see what we did wrong in our life. I have felt too many ghosts not to think there is something after death. But all my ghosts were kind and caring and just looking in on loved ones. So there has to be something beyond and I think humans made up hell so they could control people.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
5. How do you (get sent/ send yourself)to Hell?
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 07:09 PM
Dec 2017

Had to explain once why nobody goes to Hell.

Simple. According to the faith people we are made in the "image and likeness" of God. We are God's children.

Okay, I've got two kids (grown) and two grandkids (still kiddos). How could I send any of them to Hell? So, if I'm the "image and likeness"...the rest you can figure out yourselves.

People who do "good" for fear of damnation deserve what they get.

Cartoon artist Neil Gaiman had a character in his Sandman books labeled "Death". She was a young Goth girl who guided people to their final end. Each time she did the newly dead soul would ask "Is this all there is? Is this all I get?" and her answer was always "You get what everyone gets. You get a life."

That's all any of us get. What we do with it is what matters.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
4. To the Norse, Hel was a place of extreme cold.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 06:50 PM
Dec 2017

To the Abrahamic religions, hell was a place of extreme heat.

To Sartre, hell was other people.

For Trump, hell is being exposed to the truth.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
6. I always figured "Hell" is life on earth. If we don't get it right the first time,
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 01:05 PM
Jan 2018

we come back an give it a go again.
If we get it right, we disappear from the food chain forever.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
7. And I now have Lee Marvin's most famous attempt at singing stuck in my head
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 01:09 PM
Jan 2018

Thank you very much. Now don't do that again.

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